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ClutchFans Game Thread: Suns @ Rockets 2/27/2006

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 26, 2006.

  1. W-Mac

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    And the Suns had a 6'8 guy guarding him....its about DAMN time he figured out how to score against them!!! Kaman from the Clippers is OK, but I want to see him do this against Brand, Duncan, Wallace, Gasol, Ilgauskis.

    I do agree with you that it will take both our stars to excel IF we are to do anything. But, we have a better chance of winning if McGrady goes off and Yao doesnt do anything then vice versa. Get what im saying?
     
  2. hotballa

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    This was just a pathetic game all around from anyone on our team not named Yao and Juwon. They had 3 guys on Yao almost every possession, how can the rest of our team shoot 20-57 with all the open looks they had???????

    And JVG, couldnt you make Nash work on the defensive end just a lil bit???
     
  3. Almu

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    Lets see...

    I play MJ straight up and he whoops my ass 21-0. Can you coaches on the board suggest any LEGAL ways I may be able to win the game? Any adjustments?

    Oh, my bad. He is just better than I am.

    You Gundy haters find EVERYTHING wrong with the guy. If he beats the teams he is suppose to, we are proving nothing. When he loses to the teams are that clearly better, we are on his ass.

    He adjusted his offense. Now, Yao has tons of open looks and plays called for him. What everyone wanted? Yes! But NO! DaDakota and the like happen to put a little "but" in that there praise.

    No offense. But you guys remind me of NYC fans.
     
  4. hotballa

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    yes, I understand what you're saying, now shut up and stop raining on the POTW's parade since he was our one bright spot tonight
     
  5. jopatmc

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    We don't have the type of PG that can play the post up game. Our points are Rafer and Luther. That won't work. I do agree with what you say about letting Nash get 50 though. Cut off his penetration and get up on the shooters and force him to take a bunch of jumpers seems to be the way to go to me.

    Once again, why and how did we lose this game?

    Everybody's talking about how great Juwan played. He did play great....for Juwan. The guys is playing out of his mind, giving us everything he's got in the tank.

    But, once again, his game doesn't work against Phoenix, I don't care how many jumpers he hits out there. We give it all back and then some on the other end.

    Nash and Marion. Marion and Nash. Marion went 12 for 19 from the field and hit us for 18 boards. Who do you think was guarding him most of the time??? Marion sliced up his primary defender like a Ginzu knife through hot butter. Juwan can't even begin to contain him, much less stop him. Not only did Marion get his 30 but he was directly responsible for practically all of Diaw's points because was having to come down and double him, leaving Diaw standing at the FT line for the wide open J.

    Worrell and Clyde were calling the game over with 9 minutes left to play in the 4th. Did anybody else notice that? 9 minutes and we're down by 12 and they are chalking up the L already. It was plainly obvious. We ran out of gas, put put, whatever. We threw the whole load in the 1st quarter and didn't have anything left. Phoenix just ran us downhill thereafter.

    BTW, we might as well get rid of Lampe right now. The last 2 weeks, all we've been hearing from CD is how he can really shoot the ball, and he's another Nowitzki clone. Dude gets in his first Rockets game, and good ole Jeff Van Goldie has him playing the 5 and trying to post up in the paint. It's over for that kid before it even starts. Don't even play him another minute. Just send him out in the same package with Stro in lieu of a 2nd rounder the first day of trade season before he loses any value he has left.


    The only chance we have of beating the Suns this year if we play them again is if we go with these matchups:

    1. Rafer
    2. Wesley
    3. Bogans
    4. TMac
    5. Yao

    If Jeff is not going to see if Chuckie has anything that can help us against a player like Marion, and if he ain't gonna let Stro hit the court, then we might as well put the Dirk stopper on Marion. Granted, TMac probably wouldn't have worked physically on Marion tonight. It was obvous TMac was hurting. But Juwan does not stand a chance. Bogans would be a good matchup on Jones, then Rafer and Wesley on Nash and Raja. Otherwise just put a stick of dynamite up our tails and wait for Nash and Marion to light the thing, because we are gonna get lit up and blowed up.
     
  6. langal

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    I don't get this. Why do the Rockets need one man to carry the team? I don't understand why TMac has to "take over" for the Rox to win. He (among others) just has to play better. The only guy to arguably carry a team all the way was Michael Jordan and TMac is nowhere close to him.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Almu,

    We lost, and it was because of our defensive strategy, implemented by the guy you have a serious man crush on, JVG.

    Look at how teams that beat the Suns play, they guard the 3pt line.

    Why not mix in a little zone, with Yao hanging out by the basket and guard the 3 point line?

    Take away their comfort areas, we don't do that.

    DD
     
  8. W-Mac

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    Napalm,

    I'll you credit for that. I guess what Im saying is that this team can win with McGrady going off and Yao not really doing much, instead of vice versa. Can we win with Mac getting shut down, and Yao scoring 30? Im not so sure of that.
     
  9. napalm

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    He has shown that he can hang with the Wallaces/Duncan et al. As for Gasol and Ilgauskis (sp?), I think he's historically outplayed them throughout his career. At this point, I get the feeling that he could (and will) be able to take it to anyone in the league.

    Yeah I get what you're saying, but I think that's a dangerous philosophy to live by over the course of an entire season : P .
     
  10. Tango

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    I'm officially labeling you a TOF. :mad: What a freakin concept. I never thought I would see the day of seeing TOF's but the crap you're spewing certainly places you square in that category.

    We needed BOTH our All-Stars to show up tonight. Unfortunately only one did.
     
  11. Zboy

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    They did. Mike James. He did very well against Phoenix last year. Mike james is mentally tougher than Alston, and a better defender. I am still not sure about Alston. I just dont think he can produce under pressure. When everything is fine and dandy, he seems to run the team very well but when things are not going so well.....

    I just dont get one thing. We are playing a a team against which we NEED to score points and JVG gives minutes to Ryan Bowen during the crucial 2nd quarter?!?!

    Yet another game where JVG's defense left 3 point shooters wide open. They had ages to shoot those shots. The first quarter was not because of JVG's defense. Suns got exactly the same shots as they did the rest of the game. The difference was they were just missing those wide open looks in the first quarter.

    It is safe to say....

    Mike D totally outcoaches JVG
    We just dont have consistent outside shooting
    We just dont have outside shooting defense
    Yao is on steroids
    Bogans is a great sixth man
    Mcgrady has been watching too many Ryan Bowen tapes
    Ryan Bowen is JVG's illegitimate kid
     
  12. W-Mac

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    He has to take over because our role players suck if you havent figured that out by now.
     
  13. hotballa

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    That's completely true. The team shot 35% outside of Yao and Juwon. Tmac's been too inconsistent lately, but I'll chalk that up to his personal and physical problems.

    BTW we finished 10-3 for February!!!!!! Thats a 7 game pickup. WHat a great month!
     
  14. tigermission1

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    LMAO! Thanks for the laugh :D
     
  15. hangxy

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    I am afrid JVG has no clue about how to play efficient zone defense.
     
  16. W-Mac

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    This coming from someone with 236 posts over 3 and half years.
     
  17. Kyrodis

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    I don't have the stats on-hand, but Yao typically does pretty well against Big Ben, because the Pistons don't front/double team. Ilgauskas is hardly a stellar defender, and Cleveland doesn't normally front Yao either. Brand, Duncan, and Gasol don't guard Yao more than 5 minutes a game.

    Boris Diaw has given Yao more trouble this season than anyone else. It's not a matter of height advantage. When someone only 10% shorter than you is standing IN FRONT of you, he can easily knock the ball away if you don't have effective lob passers. Yao finally was able to deal with it this game. That's sounds like progress to me.

    Right...and you actually think post count carries ANY weight around here? High post count + short membership times usually only equates to a big mouth buddy.
     
  18. mogrod

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    Um, have you forgot the Golden State game where TMac had 0 (wasn't even there), Yao had 21/22 and they won? Or how about the stretch of games before the Allstar break where they won 7 of 9 with TMac in a funk?

    Yao has carried this team in the last week or so. TMac has played as option 1B playing through Yao. If all that doesn't prove to you that this team can win with TMac having an off-night, I don't know what you're looking at.
     
  19. hotballa

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    This coming from someone with 248 posts in the last 9 months.

    Sorry, I don't see where you were going with that comment
     
  20. redeeming

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    I simply dislike this "go as far as McGrady takes" saying!

    McGrady goes as far as this team takes him, alright?! This is WHY Tmac has chosen the Rockets, otherwise, he would have been remaining at Orlando!

    You never put a whole team on a single person's shoulders, ok? It's not a video game!
     

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