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ClutchFans Game Thread: Suns @ Rockets 11/17/2007

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Nov 17, 2007.

  1. solid

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    Francis, Synder, and Brooks have as much to contribute as those guards playing the major minutes. What many of us have been saying was proven tonight. While Brooks got only a minute or two, he really impressed me. Not only did he nail a three and blow by several players for a lay up, he played some tough defense on Nash. This kid deserves a chance. AND, Steve did not look fat and out of shape. I knew that was baloney. His shot was rusty,( he has a mid-range game), but he made some niffty passes and added an air of confidence to the game. Synder is very athletic and can get to the basket. These players have been rotting on the bench BECAUSE OF THE PRECIOUS ROTATION! The rotation needs to be expanded.

    Scola has also been getting very limited minutes. Well that will certainly change.
     
  2. Zboy

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    I think Bonzi just recovered from a week long amnesia.

    Sebastian Telfair was the culprit!
     
  3. The Drake

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    by doing a simple extrapolation exercise, if we had left Brooks in for all 48 minutes, he would've outscored the entire suns team (120-115) on 100% shooting.

    Rick, OPEN YOUR EYES!!! AB is the KEY!!!
     
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    We knew Yao was a liability vs. the Jazz (he's Boozer's beeyatch).

    We knew he never played well against the Mavericks

    We knew the Suns exposed and humiliated him (4 of 17 tonight, outrebounded by Barbosa).

    How exactly is Yao Ming an asset? He flat out sucks against good competition (West powers) and is relegated to basically a scrub without TMac.

    It's time to stop pounding the ball so much inside to a turnover machine who can't protect the ball or finish against guys 1 foot shorter than him!!
     
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    Does it really matter what the media reports? The point is... Yao was atrocious tonight. I would have taken Amares 8 pts and 8 rbs over the 4 for 17..

    Look on the bright side... Nobody expected this to be perfect right away. We lost to the 2 best teams in the league w/o Tmac.

    Scola is flourishing and SF3 (if he keeps a good attitude) will be a contributor. There is no way in hell Bonzi will stay this cold. He missed a good 4 or 5 easy layups tonight

    Give us 30 games and we'll see something closer to a finished product.
     
  6. watashi315

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    I like the move by Adelman in trying to get everyone involved. He's clearning the bench and letting all the guys get some playing time. It's just that he should've done this sooner. It's okay, we still have time to make up for the losses.
     
  7. doublehh03

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    exactly. we're a team that is nowhere near our potential b/c we're still mixing lineups, learning theo ffense, and our best player is out... and we competed VERY VERY well.

    we will be the best team after the all-star break.

    scola SHOWED ME A LOT. this dude is going to be HUUUUGE for us.
     
  8. Zboy

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    Yes, the Rockets were threatening to make one of those legendary 10 point basket in the last minute of the game!
     
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    has nothing to do with records. has to do with out play. our offense relies too much on individuals abilities to create. if you saw the suns offense tonight and the spurs last night they had great systems that worked as a unit.

    all of our players are just streaky too. every player has it to a degree, but if you look at the best teams they are no where NEAR as streaky as we are. and in the nba, anybody can beat anybody. for the lower teams it's "we need to win as many as we can" and that's the mentality we seem to have. for the best teams it's "we need to not lose as many as we can", which is what sas, dal, pho, and bos all have.
     
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    why the heck TMAC always gets hurt when we face the toughest schedule?
    then people blame Yao for not carrying the team,
    then when MAC comes back, he's always the hero
    year after year...
     
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    Field Goals Rebounds
    pos min fgm-a 3pm-a ftm-a +/- off def tot ast pf st to bs ba pts

    R. Alston G 24:56 3-8 0-1 1-2 -14 2 1 3 4 2 1 0 0 1 7

    M. James G 24:56 6-12 2-3 3-4 -14 1 2 3 2 2 0 2 0 0 17

    S. Francis 23:04 3-11 0-2 2-2 +4 1 0 1 2 3 1 0 0 0 8



    Total 240 42-107 9-21 12-20 16 24 40 22 21 8 9 0

    Rafer and James +/- was -14 both
     
  12. soysauce

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    Yao is pretty effective against Dallas
     
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    um rafer's passes primarily comes from just passing it to yao and tmac in their spots.

    steve actually penetrated to dish for baskets right at the paint.

    BIG DIFFERENCE.
     
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    Sun played like 70% of their potential. Yao played again like a girl, he should be shamed. The Mav game is definitely will lose. So the real RA plan will be revealed next month.
     
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    Yao vs the Mav is like a 70% shooter pls retract
     
  17. poprocks

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    haha..great argument. Aren't you tired of getting burned yet?
     
  18. Zboy

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    [​IMG]

    Hayes - "Man....Yao, how do you miss those layups?!"
     
  19. mr_jeffina

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    Guys I said it before, we are Tracy's team... No Tracy = No win
     
  20. doublehh03

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    um maybe b/c they've played in that system for years.

    like i said, BE PATIENT.

    when tmac returns to this newfound greatness by the role players, he wouldn't be depended upon to create every play and score 30+ pts every night.
     

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