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ClutchFans Game Thread: Suns @ Rockets 1/5/2005

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 3, 2005.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    By making himself a bigger target.

    Spreading his arms out wide, as well as his feet, not allowing defenders to slip around him to steal the entry pass.

    Get those elbows up Yao....go to the Dikembe school of bows....

    DD
     
  2. lalala902102001

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    Please, that was honestly one of the worst plays of all time. Yao literally pulled a dinosaur out there.

    He played all right overall tonight, but that play was inexcusible.
     
  3. steddinotayto

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    sure he can do that, but he can't make his teammates' confidence go up. it's like they're scared to make the pass to him. he's frickin 7'6".
     
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    There was one play in the first quarter. Howard was about 5 feet away from JJ, who was trying to attempt a 3. Howard did not move his lazy ass, and JJ waited a second, shot a wide open 3.

    On another play, JJ was gonna shoot a 3 from the corner. Yao Flew over him for the block. JJ faked and penetrated the lane, got a layup.

    The point: you cannot win many games when your flower forward does not even try to play D, while asking your 7'6" center to defend the 3 point line.
     
  5. dragon167

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    Let's see:

    Amare: 19pts(5/15FG, 9/14FT), 9rebs, 1ast, 6TO, 1stl, 1blk
    Yao: 14pts(6/11FG, 2/2FT), 10rebs, 0ast, 0TO, 1stl, 1blk

    U can criticise Yao passive, then Amare must be out of control. But it doesnt matter as Amare can dunk, then he must be great. Who cares if it's actually their role players(Richardson, JJ and Jacobsen=49pts) beat our role players (sura, wesley and barry=31pts). Not to mention T-mac is not as efficient as Nash plus Marion tonight.
     
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    Before the game, Yao hater claims yao would be eaten by Amare Stoudemire, and Houston wa stupid not pick Amare. Now Hater not say anthing about that, just pick Yao missed the freak pass. I saw JVG was very mad at yao not challange the marion shot and send Yao to bench at last 3 minutes. If no chemistry, continue uptemp ball, I am sure yao will leave, he has no choice.Yao hater will be happy see last year Magic for years.
     
  7. steddinotayto

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    you're right. that pass was a bad play. was i frustrated that he couldn't get to the ball? hell yea i was. but did barry give him a good pass to begin with? that's in question. the man decided to fake a jumpshot in midair and then pass Yao the ball.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Yes,

    Their confidence in the big fella goes up and down but mostly based on how Yao reacts.

    If he is aggressive and into the game they get him the ball, if he is passive they recognize this and do not work as hard to get him the ball.

    Yao needs to show up each night and set the tempo.

    If Yao plays hard and demands the ball he will get it....

    Heck at 7'6" he should score 10ppg on offensive rebounds alone...if he wants to.

    DD
     
  9. Guruchild

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    was it just me, or did it seem like everyone who touched the ball pumped faked EVERY TIME, only to just keep passing or taking an even more difficult shot (especialy in the crucial juncture of the game, when we needed some FAST shots), regardless of whether it was an open shot or not!!!? everyone seemed slow and sluggish, taking out-of-the-ordinary shots... however, i think jon barry came out with a lot of energy.
     
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    You can't get too down on this loss.

    Consider the fact that we were still in the game for 3 1/2 quarters despite:

    1.) Tmac shootin like crap.
    2.) Suns shooting above average for 3 pointers.
    3.) The insane amount of rim outs we had. Yao himself had about 3 or 4 shots rim out on him.

    Suns are damned good and I was happy to see we kept up with them despite the above 3 factors.
     
  11. mogrod

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    He didn't bench Yao for anything he did, or did not do, out there. At the moment, the ONLY way to get back in the game, was to go small and jack up as many shots as possible with shooters. Thus, Padgett came in for Yao. If it was closer, probably around 5-7 points, then JVG would have left Yao in.
     
  12. steddinotayto

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    I totally agree. But that should NOT deter them from getting the ball into their 2nd best player on the team. You don't stop getting him the ball because he's not aggressive. If he posts up, you have to dump it to him. And it's not like he'll take wild shots...he passes it out if he can't find a good shot. If they want Yao to be aggressive, they have to be aggressive on Yao. He doesn't look like he wants it, tough **** Yao, you're still getting the ball.
     
  13. real_egal

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    sure he's on everyone's probation list, and yet, everyone is trust his own 30% shooting. I can't see the game, all I could see is Wesley jumpshot misses, Sura jumpshot misses, T-Mac jumpshot misses, and yet everyone is holding high standard for Yao, because he is THE franchise player!
     
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    Come on, Yao had nobody within five feet of him. Barry started to pull up, saw Yao wide open under the basket, and passed him the ball. That wasn't that hard a pass, and it was right to his hands. That play just shows how slow Yao reacts at times. I have no problem with Barry passing him the ball. That play was definitely on Yao.
     
  15. mogrod

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    Right on. People need to calm down. We played the best team in the league right now and a team we match up pretty badly with. When you have Sura and Howard guarding Nash and Marion, your going to have some defensive problems. If we get normal games from Yao & Tmac, we are right there with them.
     
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    Hello, I thought we tried 45 mins to outshoot Suns in 3's and we failed miserably. And yet, super genius came up the idea we should START jacking up 3's?!
     
  17. sun12

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    If T-mac made 2 more shots, Sura made 2 more shot, Rox might have a chance to win.

    Apparently, PG position is still a problem. Derek Fisher won't finish 1/7. He would make at least 2 more 3 pointers.
     
  18. steddinotayto

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    you could also say yao was that wide open but Barry should have just made the easy pass instead of cocking back getting ready to fire. IMO, it could be on either player. Again, I'm not saying Yao is not to blame. But it's not totally on him. I just think they're not used to playing with eachother yet. I mean....I think if it was any other player besides Barry, they woudl have jacked it up like Yao has seen so much before this year.
     
  19. dragon167

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    Agreed. Fair comment. Yao reaction speed is slow ALL THE TIME. But for that particular play, as u mention yao was wide open, why does barry need to fake? I am not blaiming barry but it's just a TO, why is that such a big deal for a lot of posters?
     
  20. SamFisher

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    It's not a big deal in the overall scheme in and of itself, but it just served to magnify his faults in a jarring way. It does not detract from his positive accomplishments but it illustrates why he is just good and not great like we have been told to expect.
     

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