ClutchFans Game Thread: Sixers @ Rockets 1/29/2007

Totally worthless as a comparison......

It is not apples to apples.

DD

 

wow so players can just come out and diss the coach? Yeah v-span the 50th pick in the draft should be able to hold his coach accountable. That really will help build team unity and respect in the coach if the players have the same right as the coach. Next Novak and Lucas should come out and call JVG out. That would be just great for the team

 

UGH- I did not say I agree with it....exactly the opposite, really...my point is that JVG should respect the players and be the bigger man.

Players dis their coach all the danged time...Magic Johnson ran his out of town.

Tons of cases of players not agreeing with the coach....from superstar level all the way down to rookies.

Why does that surprise you?

DD

 

Coaches call out the players all the time in the press, especially the good ones like Jackson, Popovich and Brown. Have you heard about what PJ said in the press about Bynum and Kwame? And Popovich about Parker and Gino and others when they did not play well? The bottom line is the coaches can do that but the players are not supposed to, especially a 2nd-round pick that is riding the pine.

 

I think JVG's first priority should be to win games, not make sure the 11th man rookie likes him and feels comfortable. Once Spanoulis crossed the line of appropriate behavior, Van Gundy had to remind him that the team is the #1 priority, and he will not tolerate distractions.

By complaining to the media, Spanoulis made himself more of a liability than he already was. Speaking out about his personal goals clarified his priorities to everyone who read that article. This on a team that wins through chemistry and teamwork. Why should a coach tolerate behavior from an 11th man that he would not tolerate from a starter?

If Chuck Hayes came out publicly complaining about his playing time and his role on the team, saying that he was the Shaq of Kentucky, etc. etc., he would be in the doghouse too. Rightfully so. This team is all about winning.

 

if you don't agree with your coach don't bring it to the media; especially if your a rook. i hate when coaches complain, but magic johnson's magic johnson. i'm magic in his prime was more valuable then any coach in the league.

if your a 2nd round rookie don't ****ing complain to the media. v-span b****es about PT. what if lucas or novak follows through? what if another teammate agrees and becomes vocal about it? the coach can lose his authority .

every once and a while a coach might have to call a player out or in this case respond to basically being called out. by making the player look foolish the coach gets his word across that b****ing to the media won't be tolerated. it lets the player know that when they bring an in house issue out to the press then you are just opening yourself up for criticism. van gundy showed that he's the boss and maybe next time v-stan will think twice before making an ass of himself.

 

Whereas JVG can look like an ass in complaining about a 22 point win.



JVG is such a Debbie downer......the Rockets won last night....HANDILY....and because of JVG's press conference, all the board is talking about is negative stuff.

How about a little love for the team and the way they dominated the game last night.

I am happy......VERY happy to have the 4th best record in the NBA.....

DD

 

Are you still talking about V-Span? Good lord. I think you're reading way too into this. JVG didn't "go to the press" the way V-Span did. He didn't single V-Span out. He's talking to all of the bench players that tell him they want more playing time, plain and simple. Sure, maybe there's something in there for V-Span, but that's part of the whole bench that tells him that they want to play more. His message to all of them was clear: play better or don't get more time. How is that hypocritical of a coach? I just find that such an odd position to take. The 4th quarter bench played terrible, so JVG says he doesn't want to hear any of them say they want to play more.

How is that underhanded? I don't know, I just don't follow. You're making up reasons for JVG to be "low". He did his job. He called his players (plural) out. And he didn't do it by name. If they're going to get their feelings hurt, then perhaps they don't belong in a professional basketball league.

 

**** the boards talking negative.... i'm sure the Rockets are in total disarray right now....

he's the coach of an nba team. they kicked the **** out've an awful team. he's not the only coach to talk like that. do you guys want him to tell everyone how great they are and get all mushy and then dog it the next game? I'm sure in the locker room he said positive things but this is the NBA. Sometimes even in blowouts coaches have to address things they didn't like. Hell when I played freaking high school ball I remember getting yelled at while watching tape after games that our team beat up **** schools by 20 or 30.

 

In fairness to Vspan, I think he did play better. It was JL3 who started the the whole slump by playing
like it was the last 2 mins of the game. He did that. He didn't let the other players involved in the offense.
He made 3 stupid fouls in one minute. He made some horrible shots. It's becoming clear to me that this guy
is a ballhog. This isn't only about last night, but that's what I noticed everytime he's on the floor.

Exactly right. Billy made some good plays only that the recipient of the passs didn't finish it well. One way for him to get confidence is to give him playing time at the end of the first Q for a minute, to play with Tmac or Yao cuz he is a good passer. That's his strength, creating plays.

He does his b****ing by ballhogging. Trying to impress everyone as if to say that he's Tmac back in his neighborhood.

If he's thinking about Vspan, I can assure you it's not about basketball anymore. But rather, JVG is jealous,Jeff wants Billy's extra hair (beard ) on his head.

You have a wild imagination my friend.

 

Fair enough point...but the comment by him about players asking for more playing time, was clearly directed at V-Span.

Whatever....though.....

The team won......

DD

 

For the record, he is #10. Yao is #11...

 

No doubt about and it's totally unfair.

 

Pretty amazing disparity the 4th quarter shows... The 6ers scored more than half as much points in the 4th quarter as they did in the first three quarters (33 - 51), and we put up just half of what we did in each of the first three quarters. Poor defense and poor offense against poor competition definately does not warrant any playing time, imo.

No qualms with JVGs words here.

Great game by our core. Alston 3 for 3 on 2 pt shooting 1000%!!

 

i was thinking the same thing. the more i see him play the more i am convinced that jl3 is not a pure pg. he's like sf, minus the skill.

 

I think he is like Calvin Murphy minus the skills.

DD

 

you're right my bad...that's one tall ass gaurd

 

My turn...

I don't think JVG was too negative in the press conference. What I heard was that our scrubs (against their scrubs - which is their team right now) did a totally unacceptable job in the 4th. then he quickly went on to say that he wasn't going to let that overshadow the great job his core rotation did in the first 3 quarters. Of course, everyone (including myself) is going to read into it what they want to.

As for our scrubs getting shown for the scrubs they are, I need someone's help to tell me how things work at the end of the bench on an NBA team. I hear constantly about how the starters get days off between games and don't have a lot of time for practice. They still do practice when they can (with the team and individual) because they are professionals. But what about the scrubs? Game time aside, I'd think they'd be practicing a LOT more than the regualars since they don't have to worry about having fresh legs for the next game. I'd also think that the main people they'd practice with would be the other scrubs - so they'd build up some level of familiarity with them. I'd also guess that there would be a decent amount of coaching from the assistant coaches during these sessions to help them figure out the rotations and offensive/defensive assignments so they could one day step in when needed. Am I basically correct here? Just trying to find out why they played together so poorly individually and as a unit. I guess that's why they're at the end of the bench.

-Humer

 

man, the rockets are getting boring. these 30 point leads just aren't making for exciting games.

 

Could it be that the comment JVG made was at least also directed at Wells?