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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Wizards 3/2/2005

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Mar 2, 2005.

  1. aeroman10

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    MIN is about to loose to the Warriors..
    Atleast the Rockets are not the only ones loosing........
     
  2. YallMean

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    Wow, since when Yao owes you some?

    Now, you do realize it's a road game, FT contest is dangerous. Like Clutch said, the problem wasnt he missed one FT, it's that he didnt finish it strong and one. Even the great ones miss FT.
     
  3. 12345

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    All this yelling and stress is bad for you guys...especially you older members. There's always the next game. ;)
     
  4. Rocket_Boy_34

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    I miss Hakeem.
     
  5. bigbodymoe

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    you know and you are right about us needing him more involved...but yao will never be involved if he is not in the game. this guy picks up the stupidest fouls in league history. he must realize that its okay to allow a layup or dunk and keep himself in the game, but when he takes himself out of games like tonight and last night not only will it be hard for him to get back in the flow of the game, but his teamates will gradually lose confidence in him and stop getting him involved.
     
  6. YallMean

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    That makes me more sad, we could've gained one game advantage on those pretenders. :eek:

    :D
     
  7. Charvo

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    I presented this issue recently. Yao is a non-black guy invading on the turf dominated by primarily black guys. Man...the amount of disrespect going on out there is incredible. Forget Yao getting any touches the next game. Mike James' confidence in Yao has totally gone down the tubes if it hadn't already. Watch James swing the ball around to someone else when Yao is open. Mike is hardcore like Sura. These guys are winners.
     
  8. bigbodymoe

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    its not about yao's free throw shooting man...its not about his PHYSICAL toughness. its about his mental toughness. its about him being there and carrying the team
     
  9. choujie

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    I don't agree with you. During the 8 game winning streak, there were 4 really close games, Yao was clutch and made big shots in 3 of those, against Lakers, Boston and Portland, the other game against Twolves he was solid throuhg out the game before ran out of gas in OT.

    Yao had a terrible game, under performed 3 in a row, but you can' t just forget all he did a few days ago like the media guys.

    To blame this loss entirely on Yao is not fair. Wesley didn't do any better than Yao, Howard was even worse than Yao, 2 rebound and 6 TOS in 36 minutes. Tmac played like crap in 1st quarter as well. Yao didn't perform well in the end doesn't give everybody else a free ticket.

    Again, even though James made a fair amount of his shots, 24 points on 22 shots really is not as amazing as it appears to be. That's much below Yao's standards on a normal day. Let's say if James has the point guard mentality and get teammates involved more and let them find their rhythm, the result could be totally different.
     
  10. YallMean

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    people still dont get it. It's JVG calling the play not start with Yao. It's not sura or james wont pass to Yao first. On 610, JVG said that he limited offese focus on Yao one out of every four poessions.
     
  11. Gatorfan76

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    I never get the bashing of one player when a team loses. Its a team game, everyone contributed to the loss.

    Yes Yao missed that free throw, but there were missed free throws by T-Mac and Mutombo earlier.

    Yao only took 9 shots but he did miss 6 of them.
    T-Mac took 19 shots, and missed 10, and Mike James had 22 shots and missed 12 of them .
    The players who had the most shots should be included in the criticism.

    Juwan Howard had 6 turnovers, and 2 rebounds

    All I'm saying is there is enough blame to go around. Yao's mistakes are the most glaring because they happened in the 4th quarter.

    With that said-I know the media( especially ESPN) will crucify Yao tomorrow...
     
  12. NIKEstrad

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    Is he also the reason Yao is averaging 4.5 rebounds in the last 4 games?

    We lost this game on the glass, just like we lost the Utah game. TMac and James did a good job hitting the glass, but our interior play sucked.

    Kwame Brown and Brendan Haywood had 21 rebounds. Yao and Juwan had 9. Yao and Juwan had 4 defensive[/b] rebounds. Haywood alone had 4 offensive rebounds, and Kwame had 3. This is simply staggering- if an interior player got a rebound on the Wizard's side of the court, it was more likely an offensive board than a defensive board. That's just not acceptable.

    Yao also shot 3-9; where are all the people who moan when TMac has a bad shooting game that Yao shot a high percentage? TMac was 9-19, and James was 10-22, both better percentages.

    Not to say Yao deserves all the blame- Howard's 2 rebound, 6 turnover effort is unacceptable, and it just seems like Wesley goes stretches where he can't hit the ocean.
     
  13. Charvo

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    I can't blame JVG. JVG has seen enough of Yao's act.
     
  14. YallMean

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    True.
    We bashed Tmac for not being clutch before too. The fact he hit the last three, put all the bashing for this one. Bashing Juwan or james for the loss just doesnt make sense.
     
  15. Charvo

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    You also don't point out that everyone would trade Juwan Howard for a sack of potatoes if they could. You comparing the supposed franchise big man to a journey man power forward?
     
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    Boy, thanks for making my point for me, you just compared a franchise player's performance to Wesley and Howard, two role players that probably won't be here in the long run:rolleyes:

    thanks again
     
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    it feels good to duck on yao, because he is too "timidly nice"

    same goes here ;-(
     
  18. 12345

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    You guys get way too emotional. Just remember: everything will be better when the Rockets are on another 8 game winning streak. :D Just relax guys.
     
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    The Rockets have now lost 3 out 4 games since the All Star Break, but they have played well in all but one of those losses with the exception of Yao Ming who appears to have gone back into "deep funk" status. The guy is a mystery. But it does not look good for this important ten game stretch. I said I would be very happy with a 6-4 record. The Rockets are at 1-3 after four (and the easy part of the schedule is over), so that prediction doesn't look likely. Fortunately, the Wolves, Lakers, and Kings, all lost tonight but that is a small consolation.
     
  20. choujie

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    Face it, right now the Franchis player is Tmac, almost all the plays run for Tmac. Yao is used like a role player. As JVG said, Yao's greatest strength is his ability to put the ball in basket. But when was the last time Yao took the mose shots in a game??? 3 other Rockets player took more shots than Yao in this game. So you think I should compare Yao's productivity with Tmac when one takes 12 shots a game but the other takes 21 shots a game?

    In today's game, Yao's shots were comparable with Wesley and Howard, his minutes were even less than them, why can't I compare?
     

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