ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Warriors 3/14/2005

And include 6 offensive boards. That's awesome.

 

game was a little bit closer than i thought it would be but a win is a win. Now lets all pray than J. Howard's knee is not as bad as it looked and he is out only for a week or two.

 

there are really only two main reasons we won.
#1 this was by far the slowest defensive rotation i've seen the rockets play in long long time, no doubt as a result of end of the road trip. we built the lead on them missing wide-open jumpers and barely held on as they started draining jumpers.
#2 cabarkapa was playing like dirk freaking nowitski and pietrius was right there with him. they were unconscious. wasn't the prettiest win of them all but if we can play that bad and still pull it out then we should be happy.

edit: i originally put the two main reasons we lost. see what reading these post do to me. we won people!

 

It's funny that the even Warrior fans are complaining about why Yao can't get 25 shots per game just like Shaq.

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come on guys, last game on the hard, exhausting road trip, a hard-fought win. What's the point to argue about those errors in the game? Yao's shooting was off early, and he played good defense and big on boards, cluth near end. T-Mac was really cold tonight, but he was big too at cluth, although his last shot was arguable. But they are all humans, when you are tired, you will make some not so wise decisions. but we got the win.

No need to be that sensitve and defensive. someone says TMac was too trigger happy tonight, yes, it happens, he'll realize it. No big deal, no need to jump out and claim those are all makeable shots for him. Of course, he's two time scoring champion, every shot is makeable. That doesn't mean he has to shoot every time. To admit he made some mistakes tonight, won't hurt his leading role in the team. Then, there wouldn't be that back and forth, back and forth. Just be happy, it's 5-0, against 4 top teams, 4 road games.

 

Well, those are not Warriors fans, they are Yao fans.

 

Who is the genius bringing this data out?
Yao was off as 2-9, so what? He didn't try to shoot 20 times when he was off. And he deserved to try at least 10 times any day.I think the argument is that when you are off, you should know when to stop and defer to your teammate.

 

very nice comments

 

Went to the game and watching Juwon on the floor for like 5 minutes, it was nervewrecking. Juwon was carried off with the help of Ryan Bowen and Vin Baker. After he left, Scott Padget had his trouble. But I liked how the Rockets did not really rush things.

 

Though I enjoy this somehow "ugly" win, I don't like it when people tried to find excuses for TMac. Just because GSW is a weak team, so that he can shoot whatever is an invalid arguement. No one should be on top of the team, not T-Mac, not Yao, not everyone.

 

hilarious!

 

When you get a guy like TMac - you're going get some of those 9-29 type of nights. Of course, he hoisted up too many shots. To deny that he did would be ludicrous. I'm sure he's a little disappointed in his shoot selection too. Just because someone's the best player in the team (league) doesn't mean that every shot they take is a good one. That being said, in crunch time, I don't care if TMac is 0-40 with 12 TO's. I want him the ball in his hands.

And Yao should shoot the ball more. Just because someone thinks that doesn't make them a YOF or "bad" Rocket fan who places one player's success over that of the team's. Just about every one the damn league (including JVG and Tmac) thinks Yao should be more aggressive and shoot more.

You take the good with the bad and with TMac, the good far outweighs the bad. He is (or should be) an All-NBA first-teamer who had a crappy shooting night. Look at it this way - our best player has a bad shooting night, misses 20 of 29 shots, and we still win.

 

I don't have problem with TMac shooting more than Yao, because he should.

But I am concerned that the role players consistently shoot more than Yao. I mean, I get the feeling that most of the time, Yao is not the top two shot hoister. I don't have the stats but I believe that that's the case. If anyone can post the stats it'd be great.

Mostly, I blame Yao.

 

Yao should be more selfish. Sometimes being selfish means being confident, aggressive etc.; and being unselfish equals being soft.

 

Anyway, we return home safely.

 

You're right. Yao is focused in getting the boards when the shots did not come to him, you help your team any way you can, and you don't whine just because you don't get enough touches. I'm happy for the win.

However, if we end up losing the game, part of the reason will be Yao not getting enough shots. Seems that a lot of times that Yao did not get the ball just because people think they can shoot it and Yao will not be upset because he's a nice guy. Particularly when guys are hitting shots and we're leading by a good margin, Yao automatically becomes a guy like Jerome James that only do the dirty work and not like a allstar that he is getting shots.

 

Can we seriously stop this bickering? it was an exhausting road trip, everyone looked off last night, they still pulled it off. Can we all like STFU and try to savor the victory and successful road trip?

 

i have a question....it may sound silly but maybe i misheard or someone here could clarify. i was listening to 610 last night for the pregame show and they interviewed Mario Elie (assistant coach for the GSW) and he mentioned how they just came back from an 8 game road trip and he was able to spend 4 days in NY with his family-mom, wife and kids. isn't his wife Gina Gaston from ABC13? they live here in houston, right? or am i thinking too hard and maybe the wife and kids flew up to see him and his mom for those 4 days?

let me know if you heard this, if i misheard or whtvr. thanks. i was just a bit confused, that's all.

 

What is wrong with "dirty work"? David Robinson was a great great player, when TD came by, DR volunteered the "dirty work" - rebounds and defense. Ben Wallace made a name in "dirty work". Even Shaq is doing "dirty work" now for Wade. There are actually very few flashy moments in a basketball game, most of the time, there are only "dirty work". Yao got flu, was tired, his shot was off early, but he contributed in his defense and later offense. Those "role players" won us the game. Was TMac a little bit too trigger-happy? Yes, he certainly was last night. If he made half of those, nobody will complain. I just don't understand what this mentality is about? Role players should do this or that, Yao should be this or that, for what? We had the win, they all contributed. To gain respect? Well, Yao gets respect from every single teammate of him, especially TMac. He came to play with Yao. Yao IS happy, very happy in the team. Have you ever noticed how much Yao and Tmac complemented each other, whether in combined or seperated interviews? Yao mentioned millions times to Chinese and American media, that TMac is such a great and special player, that he deserves the previlige to take shot whenever whereever he wants.

Who said Yao is used less and less offensively? 14-15 in an off-evening, that's not bad to me. Yes, they could go to him more last night. I am sure JVG will address that. But is that a severe problem in chemistry? NO! All things combined led to that result yesterday. What are we complaining about? I don't get it. The team is happy, Yao is happy, and the team is actually winning. And we so-called fans have to nit-pick, and assume that Yao isn't happy with the "dirty work"? Are we advocating team success, Yao's success or happiness, or rather our personal agenda?