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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Warriors 12/14/2006

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 13, 2006.

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deshen said:

JVG did not make a good game plan tonight. Yao simply took to much shots, at least 10 more than he could handle.
We need balanced game either offensively and defensively
JH, SB, Hayes should takes more shots.
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You want JH taking shots???

#821 oschadha, Dec 15, 2006

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rofflesaurus said:

rofl wow are you going to say that isn't true? Are you ****ing joking me? Yao was already winded from this game and the last Lakers/Rockets game they effectively shut Yao down in the 2nd half.
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You can roffle all you want. I still expect Yao to drop 20/10. And last I checked, the Lakers shut down most of the Rockets in that 3rd quarter.

Yao will get his--in the 1st half. Phil Jackson makes sure of that. Watch any Lakers/Rockets games from the past few years. The Lakers let Yao do whatever he wants in the 1st half and then double and try to take it away from him in the 2nd half. It's not Yao's fault that JVG has yet to pick up on this or that no one steps up unless we're down by 28.

It's about planning different kinds of attacks and not just fall into the same trap over and over again. So just go on ahead and roffle until you get carpet burns because Yao will still play fine. Don't believe me? check his back-to-back performances if you want. I'd say it's pretty good.

It just depends on how well the "others" play.

#822 steddinotayto, Dec 15, 2006
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testmojo said:

Yeah, that seems like a turning point of the game. GS found their momentum, rockets start losing. He must want to rest Yao to reserve some energy for 4th Q even for tomorrow. He must bet his bench can hold for 3 mins. But when you bet, you can win or lose. Sadly he lose today. NOthing to blame him, this is what the game all about. GS can go crazy, they beat Spurs/mavs/det with larger margin.
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And earlier in the season, I believe the SA game, Rockets had a big lead late in the 3rd, the starters stayed in vs. SA's reserves, looked tired and lost the lead... then people b****ed about how the starters don't get rested.

Today, Yao gets a blow late in the 3rd and people b**** about that, too.

#823 Van Gundier, Dec 15, 2006
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I don't mind the inferior play calling as much as the short rotation. There's a reason why a team can be 12 man deep. If Novak, Lucas, Vanoulis, and even Bonzi got garbage minutes, it would still help them get into the fold with the team. That would help out a lot especially in a situation like this--where one of our superstars goes out with an injury.

I have no doubt in my mind that Novak, with limited minutes and not the 1-2 minutes he gets, can be a decent contributor on this team. That goes for Lucas as well.

You need the role players to step up during the regular season so the starters won't be dead tired come postseason. If this shortened rotation continues, I'm pretty sure Yao will be exhausted come February.
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First of all, did those role players get a chance to play? I mean at least some regular game time? Novak was great in the preseason but JVG doesn't play him for some reasons. Hey, if he doesn't shoot the ball during games, how do you expect him to come out and all the sudden to win a game for you in the wanning sec?

But JVG does. JVG even started Novak in one game when he didn't play before at all. Can anyone explain that? Just like JHoward. He didn't play a min in the first few games. Until Hayes got hurted, he started the PF position.

I just don't see that JVG is using his rosters at the best possible ways.

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rofflesaurus said:

rofl wow are you going to say that isn't true? Are you ****ing joking me? Yao was already winded from this game and the last Lakers/Rockets game they effectively shut Yao down in the 2nd half.
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I expected Yao play better than last rox/laker game. He is smart and he should/must figure out how to deal with laker. From his tracking record of crack opponents, I'm sure he can burn kwame/bynum duo, you never know. Otherwise tomorrow's game will have too much laker show.

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Did you guys see that JVG shouted to Yao after his 3s violation in the last min, and Yao just ignored him. It seems that JVG is scared to lose the game. JVG made some blunders today. Let's hope tomorrow we will be lucky.

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Looks like I was right ...

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in case Rockets lose, I expect some people jump out and say "Yao kills the game with his TOs"
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I didn't blame him for his last shot. But we all saw: He had a TRAVEL, missed a JUMP SHOT and then made a wrong decision to SHOOT the 2nd to last attack around 20s to the end. At that critical points, attacks should be performed by our GUARDs, piercing. Head or Alston should do it, but not Yao.
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Please go back to your english teacher before your next post.

#828 chiorsung, Dec 15, 2006
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First of all, did those role players get a chance to play? I mean at least some regular game time? Novak was great in the preseason but JVG doesn't play him for some reasons. Hey, if he doesn't shoot the ball during games, how do you expect him to come out and all the sudden to win a game for you in the wanning sec?

But JVG does. JVG even started Novak in one game when he didn't play before at all. Can anyone explain that? Just like JHoward. He didn't play a min in the first few games. Until Hayes got hurted, he started the PF position.

I just don't see that JVG is using his rosters at the best possible ways.
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yea..that's what I was trying to say. I dont' know if you were trying to discredit my post or agree with it..but no matter. I just don't like the concept or the theory that if a guy shoots the long ball extremely well, that you can just insert him into the lineup when he's cold and expect him to knock down jumpers (see: Novak).

You look at a team like the Lakers. Now of course they don't have the security of having a Yao but that doesn't stop them from playing most of their players. Virtually all of their players contribute. Our team have to have some semblance that when they make substitutions, these guys are ready to contribute BECAUSE THEY GET PLAYING TIME. What's the point of having a dangerous perimeter shooter out on the floor if he's cold? What's the point of having a speedy and feisty back up point guard who never sees the court because our starting PG is chucking up shots at an alarming rate?

#829 steddinotayto, Dec 15, 2006
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LOL, this is hilarious

#831 olliez, Dec 15, 2006
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we need:

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Lord! Is that a real card?!

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Yes it is.

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Lord! Is that a real card?!
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yea..that's what I was trying to say. I dont' know if you were trying to discredit my post or agree with it..but no matter. I just don't like the concept or the theory that if a guy shoots the long ball extremely well, that you can just insert him into the lineup when he's cold and expect him to knock down jumpers (see: Novak).

You look at a team like the Lakers. Now of course they don't have the security of having a Yao but that doesn't stop them from playing most of their players. Virtually all of their players contribute. Our team have to have some semblance that when they make substitutions, these guys are ready to contribute BECAUSE THEY GET PLAYING TIME. What's the point of having a dangerous perimeter shooter out on the floor if he's cold? What's the point of having a speedy and feisty back up point guard who never sees the court because our starting PG is chucking up shots at an alarming rate?
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I agree with you.
Sorry, I was just too mad about the loss and misinterpreted your last post a little bit. I was in a hater mood that nothing seemed right. Please accept my apology.

#834 deon200, Dec 15, 2006
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our offense is Yao. Without him, we couldnt get going and when he's winded, we lose. As simple as that. When the other 15 mil guy sits, there is no team that can be good in this league.

#835 YallMean, Dec 15, 2006
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deon200 said:

I agree with you.
Sorry, I was just too mad about the loss and misinterpreted your last post a little bit. I was in a hater mood that nothing seemed right. Please accept my apology.
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no need to apologize. no harm no foul. if only Davis didn't nail that 3pter...

#836 steddinotayto, Dec 15, 2006
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Man, this team with 3 semi starts like Josh Howard caliber surrounding Yao would be real nice.

#837 YallMean, Dec 15, 2006
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I was at the game today and was just disappointed. On an interesting note, Yao was practicing 3's before the game started. Just thought I share with you some information you may have not known.

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BOX SCORES

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Baller5x said:

I was at the game today and was just disappointed. On an interesting note, Yao was practicing 3's before the game started. Just thought I share with you some information you may have not known.
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How did he do on 3-point shooting in practice?

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