ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Timberwolves 2/4/2008

Pryuen might a YOF, but what he said is true -- the Rockets would for sure trade Tmac before they trade Yao. The problem might be it is hard to find taker for Tmac's contract.

To be fair, Yao has shown recently he can lead this team to wins without Tmac.

 

that's just uncalled for. his back has not been a problem for a long time. and damaged goods????, like i said, completely uncalled for.

you're one of the good yao fans, but please, just don't post things like that.

 

again, he can say the rockets will choose yao over him without calling tmac "broken back damaged goods." that's uncalled for.

and 8-7 record this yr without tmac isn't exactly what i call "winning on a consistent basis."

i agree this team will choose yao over tmac IF they had to choose, but not b/c they think yao will lead them to the promised land any better than tmac. if anything, tmac has proven he can carry a team through longer stretches and at least to the playoffs.

yao is younger and is playing a position that is easy to dominate, and he brings in a lot of revenue.

 

huh? I think we are 8-5 or 7-5 without TMac this year, if thats considered leading to win, how would you describe TMac's value to the team? lol. We might trade TMac over Yao but that would not be because of Yao's value as a player, it would be because of the country he is from. Same reason why Bucks went all out for Yi even after he and his agents openly dissed them. Pound for Pound, game for game, record for record, TMac is WAY more valuable to the team than Yao is.

 

Maybe i misunderstand Pruyen's advice, i thought he wanted to trade yao.
As to you, Rockza, be rational, Yao has also great contribution when Tmac is out, we dont need to speak highly of Tmac by debasing Yao, vice versa.
BTW, what is YOF and TOF, give the exact meaning, please.

 

Why are we talklng about trades after a win?

 

I am talking about our win loss record. I give out facts and numbers, not personal attacks on Yao like pruyen did with TMac. Its a fact, when TMac is hurt, our record is horrible and Yao is not able to get us to good records. Even this year with better supporting cast and weak schedule, we were only 8-7 without TMac. In my eyes, TMac has carried us when we needed him to and Yao has not but I still do not call Yao brokeback, damaged goods. I just point out numbers which is true.

 

Enjoy the win and bicker over something else like how come Im not rich.

 

That is because you are a TOF. Everyone here knows. That clouds your mind.

Yao makes 7mil less. He is younger. He generally is more durable besides some freak accidents. And he is a much more team player. Tmac doesn't have a great track history wherever he has been. There is a knock on his character. Revenue aside I'd think most experts (not rookie ) would take Yao over Tmac.

 

Yes!! Portland just lost!!! Yao had another subpar game but as long as Tracy continues his play(Except for the 7 TO's)we should be fine. Am I the only one who tought Al Jefferson traveled just about everytime he made a post move?

 

think about last game VS Minnesota. and take a look at today's game. TMAC makes the team not like a team

 

yes, he made al jefferson got 33 pts and 15 boards on us.

chuck hayes guarded him last time and he got 6 pts. that's why it was a blowout.

and they are at home; having won 4 straight at home and 5 of their last 7. they are not the same team.

 

You can't blame Tmac when Yao was playing very poorly at both ends of the floor.

As long as Tmac can play like tonight and win games for the Rockets I don't have problem with that at all.

 

I didn't see the game,I want to ask what seems to be the cause of Brooks' inability to shoot 3's? Is it because of his height? Can it get better?

 

I have checked the record, it is 8-5, not 8-7.
I am afraid you have bias in Yao.

 

He took four quick 3's tonight and missed all of them. I think that is why RA yanked him.

He should be a good 3pt shooter (as evident by his winning of NCAA 3pt contest). But tonight the first two 3's were bad shots. Then the next two he probably had lost confidence and didn't knock them down even they were good shots.

Anyways he should try to be point guard first. IIRC, a couple of his misses led to the Wolves fast break scores.

 

A win that can't be more ugly. Aim for 2nd round of playoffs, no way!!!

This team is hopeless unless one of the following can be done:
1. trade TMac;
2. trade Yao;
3. fire Adelman!

 

WHY so emotional ??

I'm just stating the fact based on common/business sense, and not exactly as a YOF or TOH or not. (You guys should know by now I am a diehard loyal fan of Yao Ming but I don't hate/dislike Tracy.).

And the trade issue itself is purely hypothetical, right? (Cos personally I don't think the Rockets will split the combo).

But if it does happen, one reason or another, if you're the GM of any NBA team, who would you prefer? A most dominant centre entering his prime who can immediately turn your team overnight to be the most popular team in China, not to mention the huge $$$$$/revenue flowing in from sponsorships/endorsements/gate receipts ? Or a swingman, pretty often sidelined with injuries, and that you have a lot other choices in the entire league?

 

haha my mind is not clouded, I am giving solid win loss numbers. You on the other hand is giving me nothing but only assumptions based on thin air. So I can safely say being YOF has clouded your mind more! We will never know what "experts" would do until they do it. All I know is who is more important to the rockets right now. Ok I give you the salary part and also the fact that TMac has injuries. But Yao is 7 6, most super tall players have injury issues much earlier in their careers than average. So the definition of durable for a guy like Yao is not the same as that of a guard. I also don't care about who is more of a team player if he doesnt win us games. TMac has won games for us with and without Yao. Once Yao starts doing that then only then will I agree that he is more important to us than TMac.

 

Sure. I don't mind ugly win at all. A win is a win. Just make me worry about the team chemistry, which is slighting changing recently.