ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Spurs 11/17/2005

Absolutely. TMac was hot in the second half and the majority of the plays ran through him.

Yao did get the ball on several occcasions. However, he was doubled as soon as he got the ball. He made the right decision by kicking the ball to an open outside shooter. Unfortunately, the outside shooters did not condfidence to knock down the shots and they just passed the shots in most cases.

I do agree that we need to get Yao more involved in the second half. We could have done that without sacrificing TMac's game.

 

JVG loves man to man action and absolutely hates zone defense. That's just not his cup of tea.

 

The reason why we lost....

Rafer Alston: 2 points / 1-of-6 FGs; 3 assists
Juwan Howard: 4 points / 1-of-6 FGs
Derek Anderson: 2 points / 1-of-4 FGs; 1 assist
David Wesley: 6 points / 2-of-6 FGs
Jon Barry: 3 points / 1-of-2 FGs

We might have the worst supporting cast in the NBA.

 

This is absolutely correct. We especially need better performance from our starters.

 

I still don't understand why we "quit" the last 15 seconds...it was a 2 posession game, Spurs just missed two free throws, got a 3 from Head and then nothing...

Granted, they played like sh*t, but they did have a chance in the end...It's still early and JVG hasn't found the right line-up yet...Tonights game will be ugly...Then the Pacers on Sun and the Mavs on Tuesday...

 

Zone defense give up offensive rebounds, and we are a terrible rebounding team as it is.

 

But without zone, we are still giving up tons of off. rebounds. At least, with zone, we won't give up 40 points in the paint last night. Maybe we can try some zone, till Sura gets up to grab those long rebounds for us.

 

i've b****ed about this several times..... that is at the fault of our defensive minded, offensive idiot coach JVG who would rather have an idiot defender like bowen over getting a decent open jump shooter. this team has no offense and even someone as great as mcgrady couldn't cover that up last night.... come on JVG get your head out of your butt

 

I agree, a zone is not the answer.

but Yao Ming gives up offensive rebounds.

7 rebounds in 42 minutes. Thats the game right there.

 

yes, that's not good enough, but a little better than

SWIFT, 25 minutes, 1 rebound

 

I dont think we lost because Yao was 3 rebounds away from whats classified as a decent amount.

I'd prefer to stick to the atrocious shooting form everyone else.

 

The greatish rebounding machine Tim Duncan only got 9 boards last night.

Basically Yao and Duncan pretty much cancelled each other out. It left TMac + Rockets role players to battle against ManUelle + Parker + Spurs roles players. Unfortunately, TMac did his job and took over the game in the second quarter, but our role players were again a no show.

That was the game right there.

 

Watch the replay. Yao got his rebound taken away by Horry once, by his teammates twice.

Yao was very unselfish. on one play, Yao obviously could have the rebound since no one was near him, but he was facing Rockets badket and he saw Howad was facing the other way, so he just tapped the ball to Howad without hesitation, Howad got credit for the rebound.

It's not always Yao's fault for those offensive long rebounds. Yao was +8 when he's on the court, he defended Duncan really well in the 2nd half.

 

You can make all the excuses you want but the fact is Yao was in position to rebound the ball late in the 4th on a couple of crucial posessions and he didn't get the job done. He let the ball go right over his head. Gene and Jim, who have the best perspective of all, said the same thing I'm saying.

It doesn't matter how you look at it, 7 rebounds for a 7'6 center playing 42 minutes is unnaccpetable.

 

I'm not making any excuses for him. My point is, one persons rebounding does not affect the game. It was a group effort. The poor shooting I'd say was much more key than Yaos rebounding

 

Agreed.

It's totally unacceptable. It's like he's reacting "slower" to the ball where shorter players are quicker. Drink some coffee Yao!!!!! It's just such a shame. Even Ewing in his declining years was a double digit rebounder WITH EASE! Offensive rebounds aside. Yao's also been lacking the defensive rebounding department. He needs to learn from the Oakley school of rebounding how to seal off his opponents.



theSAGE

 

Acceptable to you or not, what are you going to do? He's what he is, he can never be a rebound monster. It's not like he didn't try. His reaction, especially his body reaction is just slower than 6'11 players. You take the good and bad from that 7'6. Foot work, condition, shooting etc, those are the things he can work on and improve. He's tall and slow, no matter who accepts that or not, is just not going to change. What do you suggest then? One thing I am sure, that the shooting and driving (or none-shooting and non-driving be more accurate) from guards can be improved.

Excuse? What excuse are you talking about? The guy played hard for 42 minutes, and he's not winded. What excuse does he did? Or you need some excuse to diss him despite his hard-working, but ignoring the fact, bunch of other players show no effort and desire?

 

Not excuese. But look at the game, Spurs only got offensive rebound once when Yao was in position to get defensive rebound, although it's very crucial moment.

It's a team game. I don't care if Yao get ZERO rebound if Rockets players get every defensive rebound.

To blame the loss for Yao not getting enough rebound is just like to blame Tmac for not making some of the 3 pointers, including that wide open one. I can't agree with that.

 

If your oppoennt team is shooting >50% from the field, how many def reb would you expect really?

 

It was JVG's game plan to almost exclusively run plays for TMac. Tmac is great but can't win the game by himself unless he can't miss any shot. Ignoring Yao's offensive skills by giving few tocuhes in 2nd half doomed the game. Comparing JVG to Pop is like comparing Charlie Ward to Jordan.