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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Spurs 11/16/2007

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Nov 15, 2007.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Tmac is NOT a closer...

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  2. daddy cool

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    Yao 39 minutes ZERO free throw attempts
     
  3. abcdef

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    When we get smashed by the Suns tomorrow, Yao gets about 5 shots up, and the role players can't shoot the rock into the ocean, you will not be talking about progress. We still have not solved the basic problem of our offense: HOW TO PASS THE FREAKING BALL TO YAO. If McGrady is owning then the problem is insignificant but it reared its ugly head tonight, and it most certainly will make another appearnce tomorrow.

    I had hope for winning the Spurs game tonight. I hold out no hope for tomorrow. I might not even watch tomorrow even though I have time since it will be so ugly.
     
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    he has been so far this yr :D . this is the new tmac bro :D
     
  5. dedong22

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    with rafer hitting some amazing shots in the paint, real surprising to me :D
     
  6. WNBA

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    He is closer to be a loser.
     
  7. doublehh03

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    if yao takes 5 shots (which won't happen even in your dreams), scola will pick up the slack and he'll shoot those open shots/layups. the team will continue to attack.

    if u don't want a balance team, then you wish us to be a first-round loser b/c we won't win if our role players don't take advantage of the defenses on our stars.
     
  8. Tmac4theWin

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    Again, people complain by the amt. of shots Yao get, but Yao will neverrrr everrr get more than 20+ shots regularly because:

    1. He can't handle 20 shots. He's real slow (no offense but its true) and doesnt have the energy to do it in the low post.
    2. Did you see how hard it is to get Yao the ball? It's not even because of our guards...
     
  9. tang0

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    What did you expect? He did not attack the basket, even with single coverage. He lamely passed it out when double teams come. Lame, lame, lame.
     
  10. doublehh03

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    exactly. if teams did this to shaq, he gets a ton of alley-oops already b/c that's how the lakers destroy the fronting defenses on shaq.
     
  11. abcdef

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    Shaq is a freak and Yao can't compare to that.

    But you are way off base when you say Yao can't handle 20 shots a game. He can easily do it. Just look at last year.

    If something changed this year.... guess whose fault it is?
     
  12. sphynx

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    how Yao didn't get even one FT in that disappointing game? how it can be? I hv to admit one fact: you never count on this big guy to give a solution to a win,never! in China,many fans call him "soft egg",which means anybody can blow him out when he faces a lot of hustles in paint...of course,I don't say Yao's performance is mere factor to our loss,but he need to be much more aggressive and active!
    Scola is amazing! if he can find himself and acquire more confidence from this game,that will be only value to our damn loss!
     
  13. Red1

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    Great overall effort by the Rox. If only Mac played, or skip hit his shots(or didnt take such ill advised ones)... we would'a walked out of S.A with a W. Great decsion making on Scola's behalf. He filled in the vacant spots ,and didn't second guess himself on his jumpers....I also saw some great foot work in the low post by Luis. I would also like to think that SF3 could at least give us the amount of points that we've been defeated by lately, in as little as 10-12 minutes per game off the bench. We can only hope to see him soon.
     
  14. doublehh03

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    yao avg 17 shots last yr. he is averaging 16 shots this yr.

    but that's compensated w/ 3 assits this yr compared to 2 last yr.

    but he's shooting 53% this yr as opposed to 51% last yr.

    so as we go along, you will see this offense helps yao more often than not.

    do u think he can play 37-39 mins regularly like he has been doing under JVG???
     
  15. Pueblo

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    Yao is not slow, if you have watched enough games. He is actually fast among centers.

    However, he cannot keep his balance well. That's his biggest problem, when it comes to his physical talent.
     
  16. OrangeRowdy95

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    Francis and James are better "closers" than TMac. Tracy is a choker. And a 2ndround Virgin. And to quote Phil jackson, a brokeback.

    I thought the only reason why we'd go far this year is because of the additions of James and Francis. They both have this killer instinct and no bs attitude. Too bad RA doesn't play both of them enough.
     
  17. abcdef

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    We shall see. It is still November but I have to say Yao looks confused at times especially when he's in the high post. I am not pleased by his play the first 10 games at all. I know he can do better, and I don't think Adelman is putting him in a position to do better. Now if it helps the team win, great.... but we're 6-4.
     
  18. doublehh03

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    you want your stars to do less and your role players to do more.

    did u see the playoffs last yr? everything was tmac, yao, tmac, yao, tmac, yao... and it killed us playing a deep team, which all of the great teams are.

    now yao's usage rate is less, which is good. tmac is still high, which i don't like. but if the role players can play like this, tmac will be asked to do less.

    so therefore in the playoffs, they are fresher and thus can take on the playoff load better.

    yao is averaging 24 pts (1 less than last yr), 10.4 boards (1 more than last yr), 3.1 assists (1 more than last yr), and 38 mins a game, which is 5 more than last yr.

    he's improving buddy. and it's only the 10th game. he will keep improving in this offense =< he will be more dominant.
     
  19. Tmac4theWin

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    ao

    That's why he gets like 5+ TOs? Again, I am not dissing yao. It is fact. Sometimes it is way too hard to give Yao the ball and it may do more harm than good. With Tmac in the game, it would be much easier.
     
  20. BucMan55

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    The only teams that fronted Yao last year were the Suns and Warriors. And the Rocks had an answer for the Suns. It was T-Mac.

    Man in front, help waiting in the weeds behind. How do you beat this? Swing it and try to get Yao to the other side and get him the ball before the other team can adjust.

    Um....Adelman did that. Yao turned the ball over quite a few times when doing this. Yes, he was fouled a few of those, but those calls will never be made. Yao was working so hard to get the ball(which is what the Spurs want) that when and if he ever did get it, he was rushing things and his shot wasnt as smooth.

    Fronting works when the guy you are guarding is much slower than your bigs. Fronting doesnt work as well when the guy you are guarding is faster or even as athletic as your bigs. Yao doenst have the speed or agilityto get the ball around the front.

    Teams used to front Hakeem(before you could have the backside help camping in the lane 2.5 seconds at a time) and he would tear the other center up.
     

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