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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Spurs 10/26/2007 (PRESEASON)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Oct 26, 2007.

  1. durvasa

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    He didn't even mention T-Mac, you nut.
     
  2. doublehh03

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    dude he's a ROF - rafer only fan
     
  3. seaweed

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    The problem of overstacking at pg's position starts to affect the team. Since each pg has his own style, and R.Adelman doesn't want to abandon anyone, he has to design different ways on both offense and defense according to the pgs' different styles. That means the players have to study several totally different tactics at the same time. So they got confused, especially at offensive end. After all, the pgs are supposed to run the offense.
    It's like: someone trys to watch 3 favorite TV shows at the same time. so he switches channels frequently. But by doing this, at last, he could only get confused.
     
  4. rocketsregle

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    Well I think our transition defense needs a lot of work. Also too much one-on-one by our guards have the big men on our team thirsty for touches during stretches in the game. Outside of a few possessions, the back-court wasn't disciplined enough to get or create within the flow of the offense.
     
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    yeah i am a ROF, a rockets only fan. i was one of rafer's biggest bashers last year. i cried every night wondering why we traded mike james for him. however, rafer's been doing well this season, and we have james back :D

    i also know good basketball when i see it. so far i havnt seen good basketball from the rockets. i still think we need a Jerry Stackhouse, Michael Finley, or even a James Posey type player who has the ability to shoot the 3 and attack the rim. i also would like a big body up front, someone like a Brandon Bass or a Paul Millsap to grab all the boards and cover for Yao's inefficiencies on the defensive end.
     
  6. doublehh03

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    isn't that mike james. and stack, finly, posey CANNOT attack the rim. finley only shot jumpers. stack loves his 3s and fadeaways. posey well can't drive except spot up.

    our big banger is hayes.

    we just need to gel. REMEMBER FIRST YR COACH DUDE.
     
  7. rofflesaurus

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    you must not watch them because they can attack the rim, especially stackhouse, although he doesnt do it much anymore. posey still has the ability to get to the rim. finley doesnt attack the rim much because his shooting is so good. the point is, we need someone who can hit 3s all day like those guys. the only person that is as consistent as them who's on our team is Luther Head, but he wont be able to get as many good looks as them because of his size and his inability to create his shot.

    Hayes is a hustler, but he will get destroyed by guys who hustle just as much and are much bigger and stronger than him, like Brandon Bass or Paul Millsap, and those guys are deep in their team benches.
     
  8. yao_fan_2007

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    No, but to say that the team is better off without Yao is an insane comment to make. Something a T-Mac only fan or a Yao hater would say.

    Let me guess: you also think the Rockets are better off without Yao Ming too? :rolleyes:
     
  9. jasonemilio

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    hey....I totally confused the dates again and missed the game...
    how did Tmac and Yao look? I just know we lost though, but I don't really care that much since its only preseason.

    However, it sounds like we still have a lot of issues to work out with this new system and also the defense too.
     
  10. jasonemilio

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    THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE WITHOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU
     
  11. YallMean

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    Spurs 2nd unit looked sharper than our starting unit out there. Let's just hope Adelman didnt give out his tricks in preseason games. If our real game is going to be like that, I will be disappointed no matter how fancy we can score.
     
  12. BrooksBall

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    Rofflesaurus,

    A healthy Bonzi Wells is our Michael "Overpaid" Finley, Jerry "Wish I was starter" Stackhouse or James "DUI" Posey...

    ...and Bonzi is healthy and in shape this season.

    He may not be a great outside shooter but he more than makes up for it with his strengths (rebounding, post-play, toughness, etc...).

    We have plenty of 3-point shooters in Battier, James, Head, McGrady and Alston. Our 6th man (Bonzi) doesn't have to identically fit the mold of another team's 6th man (Finley or Stackhouse). Every player, and team, is a unique entity. Many different styles of play have won championships and many different types of players have been leaders and role players on championship teams.

    Personally, I would take the Bonzi I see now over the current Finley with no hesitation. Stackhouse is a different story.

    We have a new coach, a new system and several new players. The Rockets will not get into a good rhythm until several weeks into the season. This should be expected and endured by both the players, and fans, given all the changes.

    Be patient and enjoy the true depth and potential of this version of the Houston Rockets.
     
  13. doublehh03

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    i WATCH them my man. posey is a good defender who hustles and can hit the open 3. but he CANNOT, and i emphasize, CANNOT drive. i just saw the boston game tonight too. he'd make a great 3pt shooter w/ all the open shots though.

    stack is not as good as he used to. mike james is much better than him at penetration. MUCH MUCH better. and mike shoots better than him too.

    stack is better b/c he has size and thus allows him to post up.

    those guys CANNOT HIT OPEN 3S ALL DAY. check their % please.

    mike james and alston will hit their open 3s at a good rate. (alston just can't make 2 pt shots esp. the tear drop).

    we added scola who can score. he's an upgrade from hayes. but if we need D or charges to be taken, hayes is there.

    trust me, i prefer mike over those 3 guys EASILY. EASILY.
     
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    are they ballhogs? :D
     
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    stackhouse is one for sure. i still remember one game where he was 0-10 or something and still chucks it. i don't remember if it was against us.

    again, mike ballhogs yes can be irritating. but outside of tmac and yao, he's the only one who actually WANTS to shoot, along w/ bonzi. we want those players.

    not the fools we ended the season with like rafer/head/howard who miss every open shot there was
     
  16. abcdef

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    The Rockets will not win anything in the playoffs without Yao. You can mark that down. You clearly want your own team to lose, so not only are you a virulent Yao hater, you're a Rockets hater too.
     
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    Rockets need a real PG, even if they have many PG now.

    MJ look like a SG or SF. Only RA is qualified for PG. Also Tmac must reduce his unreasoning jump shots.

    Rockets have much more to do before they are ready for regular season.
     
  18. rofflesaurus

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    you're insane if you would choose mike james over michael finley, jerry stackhouse, or even james posey, especially with the guard glut we have on this team.

    i agree brooksball that bonzi is our jerry stackhouse type player. I feel he'll play the role Bobby Jackson played on the Kings.
     
  19. rofflesaurus

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    that is so funny. why would i want this team to lose? im a rockets fan after all. dont be so mad just because i question if yao makes us a better team in this offense. last season proved we could still be a good team without yao, and i think we still are a good team when yao isnt on the court, especially with the new talent we acquired.

    btw, i still think we wouldve beaten the jazz had Mutumbo played more.
     
  20. abcdef

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    You think the team is better without Yao than with Yao. Clearly then you want the team to lose. Mutombo better than Yao? Give me a break. He's even slower than Yao, and at this point isn't even as good of a shotblocker.

    If Mutombo played more in the playoffs we would have averaged 75ppg instead of the 85 we averaged.
     

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