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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Pistons 11/18/2006

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Nov 17, 2006.

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nuggien said:

if they changed the game to 3 quarters instead of 4, we'd be the best team EVER
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Noooo!!!

Then we will become a 2 quarters team.

#1001 rapier28, Nov 19, 2006

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It's frustrating to lose but there are so many positives to this season. We are freaking 6-4, that's after playing 6 of the 10 on the road, and against 3 of the teams that played in last years conference finals.

The Rockets have lots of new faces in addition to the first time T-Mac playing with a dominant Yao and trying to learn how to pick his spots to dominate. The same thing happened in 04-05 when T-Mac first got here. The Rox started 6-10 in November and ended up winning 54 games. Once all the roles are better defined, Bonzi starts coming off the bench, and the Rox start playing JVG defense consistenly, the W's will pour in.

With the exception of the first game of the season vs Utah, this team has played great for long stretches and led by double digit points in all the games. Rox will be fine!
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Cant agree more.

The current status of Rockets is very similar to 2 years ago. Because of the injuries happened last season and lots of move this summer, it's totally a new team. Everyone needs to learn how to play with each other even JVG has been working on how to balance the team offense and defence options (I mean tmac and Yao).

I think our major rotations are not set yet. Veterans 'deserves' more chances to prove themselves in any team, though I don't think it is fair enough. So subpar player like Padgett and Juwan will get less and less time after they use up their chances. Meanwhile rookies like VSpan and Novak will get more and more chances as they are around JVG for more and more days.

If I were a coach, I would also not let rookies play too much time when I had some veterans on the team. Coaches use players for their advantages, while our fans judge players for their disadvantages especially when we lose a game. Do you guys agree?

At least we are 6-4 now. Considering our opponents of the 10 games, It is definitely not a bad results. We can see our talent and potential to compete the contenders. The only problem I am concerned about right now is our mental game. But I am pretty sure will be fine by All-star break.

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NewYorker said:

The chief problem with Yao's game is his turnovers....he's close to racking up some ignomious triple-doubles. Tonight was 8. he can talk about smarter basketball, but he's got to work on that. 3/4 I can live with. But 8 or 9 is negating a big chunk of what he does.

Other things about the Rockets is that hey - you are going to lose games folks. Welcome to the NBA. 10 games does not make a season. Nor does 20. If the Rockets are 12-8 in 10 games....I'm sure you'll all be screaming and calling for van gundy's head.

But you got to start living within the realiztic expectations that this team no matter who is going to coach it is not going to win every game. That's just not how it works. Right now, talent wise, people wise, chemistry wise - this isn't the best team in the division, it's the third best.

To move up, it's just going to take time. It's going to take time for people to learn to play together. It's going to take more time for Novack and VSPAN to figure it out. It won't happen until January or Feb...or even post-all star break.

So just watch and enjoy - instead of ripping on Howard or Padgett or Gundy - guys who bust their bottoms to try to help this team win.
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We need more fans with the same (similar) attitude.

#1003 jsnwu, Nov 19, 2006
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rapier28 said:

Noooo!!!

Then we will become a 2 quarters team.
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So what, then let's change to a 2Q game, each game 24 minutes.

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Some comparisons from differents pgs after todays games:

G. Arenas :45 5 6
DeronW: 25 14 2
Tj Ford: 26 18 6
ChauncyB: 23 9 1
SkipToMyLou: 5 1 1

Rafer sucked...

#1005 CDogg, Nov 19, 2006
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pryuen said:

http://sports.sina.com.cn/k/2006-11-19/11162576238.shtml

Well........Yao Ming said it himself. He told the Chinese reporters that he had this small bug/bad habit in his footwork that got him into these travelling calls early in his career.

The referees had stopped calling them last season...but for some reasons, they started calling them on him. So that accounted at least 4 of his turnovers tonight.
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One of those travelling calls against Yao in the 4th quarter is completely bogus. The replay confirmed it was a BS call.

#1006 wnes, Nov 19, 2006
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CDogg said:

Some comparisons from differents pgs after todays games:

G. Arenas :45 5 6
DeronW: 25 14 2
Tj Ford: 26 18 6
ChauncyB: 23 9 1
SkipToMyLou: 5 1 1

Rafer sucked...
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You left out,
Chris Paul: 35 5 6 who played against and roasted

Mike James: 5 2 5

#1007 A_3PO, Nov 19, 2006

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I don't think Yao and T-Mac can play together well.We should trade one of them for some other genius.Will you choose Yao or T-Mac to be traded?After all , in my opinion,Yao has more potential than T-Mac.

#1008 geutivs, Nov 19, 2006
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I don't think Yao and T-Mac can play together well.We should trade one of them for some other genius.Will you choose Yao or T-Mac to be traded?After all , in my opinion,Yao has more potential than T-Mac.
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You are obviously a genius! How about we trade Tmac for you?

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zhao1109 said:

I better quit here tonight since even myself lost interest to put any words on. Now BF2 time . Peace. Hope YAO/TMAC/ROCKETS will have good game on Monday
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Then STF!

#1010 onssoo, Nov 19, 2006
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geutivs said:

I don't think Yao and T-Mac can play together well.We should trade one of them for some other genius.Will you choose Yao or T-Mac to be traded?After all , in my opinion,Yao has more potential than T-Mac.
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STFU.

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tsunami said:

STFU.
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He hasa right to express his opinion! No need to be rude!

#1012 Yetti, Nov 19, 2006
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geutivs said:

I don't think Yao and T-Mac can play together well.We should trade one of them for some other genius.Will you choose Yao or T-Mac to be traded?After all , in my opinion,Yao has more potential than T-Mac.
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good idea!trade yao for Odoom or SHAQ ,or trade T-MAC for wade or kobe,but before that pls fire JVG at first

#1013 talen, Nov 19, 2006

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geutivs said:

I don't think Yao and T-Mac can play together well.We should trade one of them for some other genius.Will you choose Yao or T-Mac to be traded?After all , in my opinion,Yao has more potential than T-Mac.
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What we need to do is trade both and get 3 or 4 more players that bring INTANGIBLES.

A Team with Starting 5 of INTANGIBLES is pretty much gonna destroy any other team in the NBA.

Other teams will be searching for answers...

You cant defend what you cant see!!

And you cant score against 5 INTANGIBLE defenders....

Can you imagine a player driving to the hoop and 5 INTANGIBLE players simultaneously closing the lane... ALL of them there to take the charge. Dude! That's like 5 offensive fouls right there on one play!!

And don't let the Final score deceive you.

Final score will say the Rockets lost but that is not entirely true.

You see, Numbers lie. You cant put a number on the INTANGIBLES.

Just accept the fact that it is there and we have won.

Here's to you Mr. INTANGIBLE! *Big Thumbs UP!*

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talen said:

good idea!trade yao for Odoom or SHAQ ,or trade T-MAC for wade or kobe,but before that pls fire JVG at first
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ya, get rid of Jeff, we are moving from a good team to poor team!

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Zboy said:

What we need to do is trade both and get 3 or 4 more players that bring INTANGIBLES.

A Team with Starting 5 of INTANGIBLES is pretty much gonna destroy any other team in the NBA.

Other teams will be searching for answers...

You cant defend what you cant see!!

And you cant score against 5 INTANGIBLE defenders....

Can you imagine a player driving to the hoop and 5 INTANGIBLE players simultaneously closing the lane... ALL of them there to take the charge. Dude! That's like 5 offensive fouls right there on one play!!

And don't let the Final score deceive you.

Final score will say the Rockets lost but that is not entirely true.

You see, Numbers lie. You cant put a number on the INTANGIBLES.

Just accept the fact that it is there and we have won.

Here's to you Mr. INTANGIBLE! *Big Thumbs UP!*
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Thank you Zboy, i watched Borat... i really think you should be in it.....

#1016 Uneek, Nov 19, 2006
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JVG is too dull and monotonous, with KBil, Novak and Bonzi on the bench, he still looked so shorthanded....if he continues his stubborness, rocket wont go too far and I have a feeling that this is gonna be his last year with the rox.

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FIRE JVG!!!!!!!!!!

#1018 m004378, Nov 19, 2006

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Zboy said:

What we need to do is trade both and get 3 or 4 more players that bring INTANGIBLES.

A Team with Starting 5 of INTANGIBLES is pretty much gonna destroy any other team in the NBA.

Other teams will be searching for answers...

You cant defend what you cant see!!

And you cant score against 5 INTANGIBLE defenders....

Can you imagine a player driving to the hoop and 5 INTANGIBLE players simultaneously closing the lane... ALL of them there to take the charge. Dude! That's like 5 offensive fouls right there on one play!!

And don't let the Final score deceive you.

Final score will say the Rockets lost but that is not entirely true.

You see, Numbers lie. You cant put a number on the INTANGIBLES.

Just accept the fact that it is there and we have won.

Here's to you Mr. INTANGIBLE! *Big Thumbs UP!*
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Our major problem is that there is no guy in our team to organize our offence:
Alston does not create open shots for shoters, he can not pass the ball to the frontcourt so that they are´in a direcht position to score.
And we have no relieable shoter, when Yao is doubled:
Our manager decided to bring two rookies for these jobs: Novak and Spanoulis instead of two experienced vets: So we have two options right now: Letting them warm the bench, spoil their potential and end this season like the last one. Or we start increasing their pt gradually so that they become key contributors for our team.
If JVG is not able or willing to develop these talents for the good of our team, I will be in favour of him being fired!

#1019 IRockU, Nov 19, 2006
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aaaahhhhh im starting to hate these colapses, but anyway we're 6-4. Im glad the rocks will only play 4 games in 12 days after wednesday, so they can practice finally. Get to know each other and the system better. Hopefully they'll look better in the fourth in Dec. What else hopefully bonzi is practicing his ass off and can start coming off the bench in Dec.
Anyway its gonna be a good season. It's takes some time with a NEW team.

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