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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Pacers 12/26/2006

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 25, 2006.

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bright side guys

Bucks have charged back on the road to Spurs - 97 all. 6 mins to go.

Go Andrew Bogut!!

#441 aussie rocket, Dec 26, 2006

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blazer_ben said:

No. TO's have allways been a weakpoint. i can because he handels the ball so much, the TO's are bound to happen.
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Before this season, McGrady never averaged more than 2.7 turnovers a game. I don't know what you're talking about.

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AGREE 100%

LUTHER SHOULD BE TRADED, no doubt about it. he lost the game. plain and simple, he blew the game. he f*cked up, and that's why we lost..

that's the mentality of a f***in ballhog. but too bad he is a scrub. he hit a lucky shot last season, he thought he is "clutch" as hell. that's why he didn't pass the ball to anybody or take a timeout. I just saw the replay, Battier was freakin Wide open.. but too bad the ballhoggin scrub Mr. Luther Head is too good to pass it. he wants to hit a game winner.

I would rather Tmac jack one up than Luther $hi% (that's his new name)

good loss by the Rockets. it proved to me that I am stupid. I admit, there's no way in hell we can hang around .500. the season is virtually over. I am sorry YOFs for being such a fool, Yao IS the whole team. we cant win to save our lives without Yao. plain and simple.

here's what I learned from this game: Luther needs to go to another team or to the NBDL. I dont care, I just dont want to see this guy again on this team.
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You way overacted.....
Just think last season, when Yao was out TMac still led the team won some games, if my memory is correct, actually even won more games than Yao led the team without TMac then.

#443 tsunami, Dec 26, 2006
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Coob5 said:

Can someone put the press conference on here if JVG does one I like watching those or player interviews.
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lol, u dont want to see his grumpy a$$.

I almost puked after I heard his r****ded non-sense.

he was like: "we didn't rebound, too much TOs" and like usual "we didn't excute well", pfft, as if his plays are so complicated to be excuted correctly

I defended JVG for a long time. I was wrong. sorry guys. I am on officially in the "Fire Gundy" club

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I can't even watch it anymore. We had no inside game at all and looked like a lottery team. That Foster guy grabed all the rebounds, which would never happen if YAO had be there. I was so worried every time when Tracy was driving to the rim, praying he would not get hurt. It's like a total torture watching Rockets game now.

#445 marciagong, Dec 26, 2006
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IMO, people who are upset with McGrady have a reason to be. He is damaged goods...and if he is in a game we as fans should expect the best out of him and get us a few wins, because he will go down again later in the season...and we all know that Mac will mess up his back again this season, even if we deny it. So while he is in there...try to get us a win..cuz we don't know when he will be out again, otherwise....stay out and rest up the back a little more for tougher teams.
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Do you pay him? Geez. The guy just got back, this is his first game.

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Before this season, McGrady never averaged more than 2.7 turnovers a game. I don't know what you're talking about.
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I agree, I have been extremely critical of Tmac, but it seriously might be the ball

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You are stats guy, how often does Kobe dribble and drive, and what's that like for Tmac career wise. I dont know. To me Kobe has edge on the dribbling and finish strong. Tmac relies more on jump shots.
Now it's maybe Tmac's physical condtion this year. Let's just hope he will find his groove and get his mojo back in time. I feel for him though, just back from a bad back and all of sudden he has to take the load.
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For his career, T-Mac has a 1.9:1 assist to turnover ratio. Kobe's is 1.6:1. That's a signifcant difference. To say that McGrady has had a problem with turnovers just doesn't make any sense. Look at his turnovers per game throughout his career, and look at how many shots he's been creating via FGA, FTAs, and assists. His turnover-ratio is impressively low.

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aussie rocket said:

bright side guys

Bucks have charged back on the road to Spurs - 97 all. 6 mins to go.

Go Andrew Bogut!!
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Spurs are not our concern, now we are not at the same level with them. They will make the playoffs anyway and with good seeding, while we are trying to fight for a playoff position. A poor man really doesn't care whether a Millionaire loses coulple hundred dollars.

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aussie rocket said:

bright side guys

Bucks have charged back on the road to Spurs - 97 all. 6 mins to go.

Go Andrew Bogut!!
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LMAO

why would we care about the Spurs?? we would be lucky if we got the 8th spot in the west, and u are talking Spurs??

we will never reach the Spurs, that's a fact jack

and we will never reach the playoffs, yaaaay, we are going to the lottery again

I started a new thread two days ago with some nonsense like "we can stick around .500 until Yao comes back and we will go to the playoffs". well, after this game, I am really embarrassed. YallMean was right

btw, anybody watching FSN right now? they are counting down the best dunks in "best damn sports show period" and like usual, Yao was included in that count down. Kobe's weak dunk supposedly on Yao Ming was ahead of Tmac's dunk on Bradley by 15 places!! that really doesn't help me right now.

#450 RocketsMac, Dec 26, 2006
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Spurs are not our concern, now we are not at the same level with them. They will make the playoffs anyway and with good seeding, while we are trying to fight for a playoff position. A poor man really doesn't care whether a Millionaire loses coulple hundred dollars.
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But I hate the Spurs, so thats good enough reason for me

And Bogut is an aussie , see the correlation?

#451 aussie rocket, Dec 26, 2006
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durvasa said:

For his career, T-Mac has a 1.9:1 assist to turnover ratio. Kobe's is 1.6:1. That's a signifcant difference. To say that McGrady has had a problem with turnovers just doesn't make any sense. Look at his turnovers per game throughout his career, and look at how many shots he's been creating via FGA, FTAs, and assists. His turnover-ratio is impressively low.
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Everybody is playing the same ball, but T-Mac's back is still bothering him. That's my rationale.

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durvasa said:

Before this season, McGrady never averaged more than 2.7 turnovers a game. I don't know what you're talking about.
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Thats Interesting, i allways thought he allways commited alot of TO's . i think once he gets back and our best player( YAOZA) gets back, w'll be ok. i still believe.

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durvasa said:

Before this season, McGrady never averaged more than 2.7 turnovers a game. I don't know what you're talking about.
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I am very interested to see if the return of the old leather ball will have any effect on his TOs...I don't know, but I think McGrady has really been hurt by the new ball, I notice him losing his grip on the ball a lot of times, it doesn't always lead to a TO, but sometimes it does. I see the ball slipping from him a lot this season, something I've never seen him have a problem with in the past.

We will see if the change affects him or not...

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once again, nobody is asking him to do too much. nobody is asking him to do anything BUT shoot the wide-open three.
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Yes they are. at times he is forced to play Point guard. during the stretch where tracy was out, he was starting and was playing very heavy minutes. nontheless, he put up some really Impressive numbers. he just had a very bad night.

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aussie rocket said:

Chuck Hayes looked pretty damn bad.

having not seen any earlier games this season, I expected a lot more of him. He just didnt even look like it.

I forgot he was out there most of the time - then he'd remind me by getting a rebound and stepping out of court, or just committing a dumb over the back foul.
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I'm guessing he's either still hampered by his leg injury or it's mental, ie he's gotten too comfortable cause there's no competition at the 4 for minutes.

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and the bucks have it sewn up...

looks like EVERYBODY wins in San Antonio these days...

#457 aussie rocket, Dec 26, 2006
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aussie rocket said:

But I hate the Spurs, so thats good enough reason for me

And Bogut is an aussie , see the correlation?
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Looks like you get your wish, mate.

I hate Spurms too. I was glad Dallas beat SA last time in the WC playoff final.

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Looks like you get your wish, mate.

I hate Spurms too. I was glad Dallas beat SA last time in the WC playoff final.
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I don't like the Spurs all that much either, but there's no way I would root for the Mavs over the Spurs...it's not even close!

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I am very interested to see if the return of the old leather ball will have any effect on his TOs...I don't know, but I think McGrady has really been hurt by the new ball, I notice him losing his grip on the ball a lot of times, it doesn't always lead to a TO, but sometimes it does. I see the ball slipping from him a lot this season, something I've never seen him have a problem with in the past.

We will see if the change affects him or not...
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I saw one of those new balls at Academy today, that thing sucks bigtime, it's like plastic or vinyl

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