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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Heat 11/10/2005

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Nov 9, 2005.

  1. TECH

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    It's a spin off of Jim Rome, and an impersonation commercial of him that plays on 610.
     
  2. Rox Addict

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    I am a donut
    I agree !!!!! Like I posted earlier we are all here because we are Rocket fans but why cuse at each other and call each other stupid...etc...Now disssing the players or if posters from other teams say stupid crap then I understand but I thought we were here to vent and give each other moral support when we lose :D
     
  3. canoner2002

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    Reggietodd deserves it. He "F U" first and then went on with absolute nonsense.
     
  4. oschadha

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    You hit the nail on the head on the definition of a bandwagon fan. Anyone who has contributed $10 to join this site is not a bandwagon fan. Just because you critique the play and coaching of a game in a negative manner does not make you a bandwagon fan. I'm sick of people accusing other people of jumping ship or overreacting. I spent good money watching this team blow fourth quarter leads against the two worst NBA teams. What if we end up a game behind Dallas or SA in the overall SW standings? Were we overacting then?
     
  5. soupman

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    It's really pretty funny. Every game the board's comments are the same. "We don't have a closer." "We're not clutch." "Yao folds in the clutch." Etc. Fellas, there is one simple answer. We do not have a perimeter player, apart from McGrady, who can hit the outside shot consistently. Period. Every coach knows it. So they all do the same thing. Play Yao 1 on 1 for the most part for 38 minutes (when he gets great numbers), then front him and double or triple team him down low and deny the entry pass (and he gets poor #s in the 4th Q). They can't do that the entire game due to foul risks.

    This strategy works unless the perimeter jump shooters can't make baskets. Voila! That is the Rockets without TMac. We can't penetrate the lane because they pack it in against Yao, which is why JVG tries to clear space with the PnR with Yao at the high post. We can't hit the outside shots to cause the fronting defender to leave Yao. All this changes with TMac's return. The question is, how deep a hole will we dig by then? Regardless, we need another option on the perimeter.
     
  6. Rox Addict

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    Then Give it to HIM !!!!!
    ;)
     
  7. rocketsregle

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    Don't get mad, I've also noticed that you are very shortsighted when it comes to the losses myself. You seem to be persistent in blaming these losses on the loss of T-Mac and your perception that Yao Ming is not a leader. Sure if we had T-Mac we would probably be 4-0 but that does not mean that these last three games were not winnable.

    Yao is not the type of leader that is voiceful but instead is a leader by example. He busted his butt in this game with lots of effort plays. The fact of the matter is that Yao's teammates are failing him. Even Magic Johnson mentioned it at half time. Yao needs his teammates to step up because right now it is Yao against 5. I would think that Magic Johnson would know better than you or me.
     
  8. Rox Addict

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    Damn Right !!! $169 NBA League Pass
    $10 Roxs Forum
    $ 2 Tissue
    $ T-Mac ...PRICELESS :D
     
  9. DribbleHooper

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    Sounds about right.
     
  10. I am a Donut

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    s'all good. ;) These games are are just grief enducing, i guess.
     
  11. Rox Addict

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    Thats the attitude we need ;)
     
  12. ToothYanker

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    Reggietodd won't respond because he's in fact "watching" saturday's game against the Nets. He alone has the ability to watch games without a TV and then argue with the entirety of ClutchBBS about what happened in the game he "watched."

    We should be fearful for you do not possess this power. I do not either. Only Reggietodd has this power. But will he use it for good or for ill? Only time will tell.
     
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  13. DribbleHooper

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    Without question. I shave my head so I don't have any hair to tear out over games like these. :p
     
  14. rocketman1979

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    Mutombo only played 13 minutes. JVG could have had him set all those picks in the 4th quarter instead of Yao. Pick and roll with a tired Yao ain't going to get it done.
     
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    I agree with most of what you said. HOwever, we don't just need a person who hits the outside shot. We can use someone who can drive to the basket and get to the line. That is what DW and Kobe does. Heck, even Corey magette does that. We need a player that can do that. I thought Rafer could and DA could, but I guess not.
     
  16. rocketman1979

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    Head is a clutch player, JVG just needs let him loose. Right now he's playing like a scared point guard.

     
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    There is one thing Yao should be really blamed for is his first foul. That was a stupid foul--Wade was not in good position to take a shot.

    If not for that foul, Yao wouldn't have gone to the bench so early and the Rockets could have distanced themselves from the Heat from early on. With a great closer like Wade on the opposing team, with our own TMac out, you've got to have a big margin to weather their comeback.
     
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  18. rocketman1979

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    Rockets should have fouled Mourning out.
    Then Yao could dominate the entire 4th quarter.
    JVG lack of strategy of partly to blame for this loss.

     
  19. swu

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    Yao's post game quote from AP recap:

    ``The talk has got to change,'' Yao said. ``We need to do it for ourselves -- talk the talk and walk the walk.''

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2005111014


    I am wondering what he meant by that? Who is not walking the walk?
     
  20. timesquare

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    maybe swift or howard should set screens for yao down low instead of yao setting picks at the top of the circle. i agree with the earlier comments about the PnR - it looked futile tonight.

    anyone seen screens for a big man down low before? picture it - yao posts up 10-12 feet away, stro or howard curls around behind mourning, yao spins to the other side of the lane while mourning fights through the screen set by stro/jh, but at least yao has a few seconds to get better position...

    i know many here have been saying that yao was getting position late, but i honestly didn't see it. i mean, it looked like he kept setting up 10-12 feet away, and even then, didn't have his feet set or his hands in a catching position, and couldn't really get through mourning... we all know if he was 7-10 ft away, and got the ball, he could have taken mourning...

    another thing i miss is yao taking the open jumper at the top of the key. maybe they should work the pick and pop instead of the PnR...

    on another note, compared to the game against the magic, you have to admit that there has been progress. i know, it hurts, and it feels good to let loose with the criticism, but there has been marginal improvement, i think.
     

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