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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Hawks 11/16/2004

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Nov 16, 2004.

  1. BigMan+Mac=Big Mac

    BigMan+Mac=Big Mac Contributing Member

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    I'd like to see yao controls ball by himself,passes ball himself,shots ball by himself....does everything by himself.Do not count on those guys to give you the damn ball!
     
  2. UTweezer

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    i hope your being sarcastic.
     
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  3. DaDakota

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    LOL, well, he could...I don't know...maybe, just maybe...go get an offensive rebound or 10....I mean he is 7'6" tall.

    DD
     
  4. walterw

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    The reason we lost:
    1. Could not hit open jumper druing the crunch time.
    2. Poor guards play.
    3. TMac setted too many outside jumper instead of going to the hoop.
    4. Failed to pass the rock inside.
    5. Yao didn't fight for position and demands the ball.

    Most of all, it was Gundy's game calling failed us.
     
  5. BigMan+Mac=Big Mac

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    After Vs lakers and Vs min,many people felt yao is not a good leader to lead his team to win.But now,you guys should know why rockets always repeat and repeat same mistakes.It's yao's problem?
     
  6. hitman1900

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    *******, horrible loss. The offense continues to struggle just like last year's. I've seen multiple teams hit 110 points this season yet the Rockets struggle just sniff 90 points. The rocket pg's are beyond idiotic, Yao misses only 2 shots tonight and they stop passing him the ball, that's beautiful. :rolleyes: Ward and Lue are less than garbage.
     
  7. KeepKenny

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    If Yao continued to try to get the ball, and did not get it when he had position, then you would have a much more legitimate gripe about the guards. Unfortunately, Yao assumes the same thing as you do and stops demanding it.

    I'm not really blaming Yao over Tmac. As i said earlier, tmac was forcing some shots and bricked everything. Yao's incredible game up that point is simply more evidence that he should have given a better effort to take the game into his hands. The Hawks are not a good defensive team, and they do not have any defensive personel. They took Yao out of the game way too easily, mainly because Yao allowed them to take him out of the game. Too many times he gets fronted, or gets called for a couple offensive fouls, and he completely defers to anyone and everyone else on the team.
     
  8. njwilliam

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    yao 13/15

    3pts 3/21

    that's all why we lose.
     
  9. UTweezer

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    no one is saying that YAO is the only one to blame.


    tonight, the finger points to Ward.
     
  10. francis 4 prez

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    i haven't given up all hope but i'm getting there. if jvg was fired tomorrow (he won't be) i certainly wouldn't care.
     
  11. superpro

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    Not to bash JVG, but he was definitely out-coached in the fourth quarter tonight.

    Defense collapsed, offense didn't start with the big fellow, insteand JVG tried to force Tmac to take the game over.

    Out-coached! Sign.

    We might need to think about JVG's coaching capability or style seriously.

    Another 10 games will tell. We will see.
     
  12. BigMan+Mac=Big Mac

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    Yeah,rebound is a big problem to yao.He just do not know how to do that well like Dike.But I believe yao will improve it much better
    after 20 games.
    Now,our problem is we do not have a real leader in the court but we really need. I found those guys do not know how to deal with when yao asks a ball and TM also asks a ball.
     
  13. superpro

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    Shut the hell up!
     
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    I saved this on my DVR and the min it ended i deleted it. Man i dont even wana talk about it...
     
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    If you don't agree with my points, why don't you offer a few of your own? That's how things work around here.
     
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    LOL, well, he could...I don't know...maybe, just maybe...go get a break or 10..... After all, he only got 27 (13/15),11 and ... I dont know...every body was much better than him
     
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    They are both to blame. Yao is shutdown when he is fronted. TMac doesn't drive enough. They both play crappy defense.
     
  19. UTweezer

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    Your points are valid, but that guy is a superpro so he's entitled to just say that w/o explanation.
     
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    About 1:30 till the end of the game, JVG called the play and forced Tmac to take the game over, which he missed. I am not blaming Tmac for missing that shot. But it all seemed to me that JVG was out-coached in the fourth quarter. Yao was hot throughout the game. Suddenly in the fourth quarter, guys were forcing shots everywhere. And Yao, if i am right, just shot just one time. JVG was out-coached in taht quarter big time.
     

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