ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Grizzlies 11/7/2006

Oh I see the classi but he's 7-6 argument.


Welcome to the Stephen A. (azz in azzhole) Smith school of basketball.

 

I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about. In Chuck Hayes' rookie season, his rebound rate was 3rd highest in the league, second only to Dwight Howard and Tyson Chandler.

You think JVG is starting him because of his shooting skills?

 

Who cares if Hayes is a better rebounder than Yao... They're both on our team.

 

agreed!
and it looks like we may have a homecourt advantage this year to boot.

 

Newsflash #1: VALID

Newsflash #2: NO. we are not doing fine, at this rate we wont make playoffs, we need to improve, tmac is playing horridly, snyder + head seem to go on and off, rafer also inconsistent with his shots. Battier might have quiet games but he will won't have a BAD game, which is why i like him, same can be said for Yao, but because Yao's skill is so much greater alot more is expected of him, which is fair enough, Yao's doing fine, Battiers doing fine, Hayes is doing fine. 3 different levels of skill doing fine for their skill level, what isnt fine is consistency within our role players, head, snyder and rafer have been hot and cold, and bonzi, well his pretty consistently unspectacular and consistently fat. CONSISTENCY, least our FT seem to have improved, lets hope it stays that way and slowly one by one our little weaknesses are ironed out and we can consistently bring it every game, if we can achieve this then rox well easily make it deep into the playoffs.

 

true that TMac is very off, but you have to love how he is still attracting the double and triple teams. IMO as long as he keeps passing out of those and the ball swings to YAO down low I'm happy.

TMac w/ his chronic back stuff wasn't a random occurance. It had to do with overusing his extrensic muscles. If his back stuff is a thing of the past then he is learning a different way to be in his body, and he will have to relearn his shot and basic movements- no small task. Love that he is working on his assists in the meantime. Give it a few months and it will all fall into place methinks.

 

at this rate NOK and Utah will play for the Western Conf crown, while Dallas and PHO will go to the lottery. maybe it will happen, but really too soon to get your undergarments all in a bunch. points well taken, but really topic to be revisited in 8 more games. yes?

 

He had a better shooting percentage then... oh say Battier, Head, and Synder in this game. 5-8

Which now puts him back up in the percentages at 50% from the field.

He had a couple of bad shooting games... typically he can finish around the basket on a consistant basis.

 

they always yell.. lol I am learning to ignore! I'll celebrate the tight victory with ya!

 

And do you seriously think Philadelphia is going to be the #1 seed in the East and the Hornets are going to be the #1 seed in the West?

We go through this every year with different teams- the biggest laugh was when Seattle and Indiana had the best records through 15 games like 2 years ago and TNT actually had in their headlines, "NBA Finals Preview?" Utterly ridiculous.

You take wins when they come. You don't worry about how the teams' going to perform in the playoffs after 4 games. There is going to be plenty of opportunities for the role players to get into the games and everybody to get on the same page.

New ManLaw: Pronouncements regarding the team's likely playoff hopes shall not be proclaimed until after at least the 20th game.

 

Great post! I agree.. There is still a part of this team that we need to see. Maybe JVG is waiting to play Vspan and Novak when there is no question to the outcome??

I really wanna see Novak get a little more playing time just to see his pretty jump shot. Vspan isn't going to learn to be calm on the court if he never gets to take off his warm up!!

Hopefully the two of them will show JVG something spectactular in practice and they will get some PT!

 

I have an IDEA!!

How about you stop playing Padgett JVG and instead.. (get this one) play Novak!! He can't be any worse then Padgett but maybe he can be better.

 

Well I made in time for the 2nd quarter and the rest of the game. Sloppy game but a good win for the Rockets. That dunk on Yao in the 2nd half was painful. I had fun and so did the little boy I took with me to watch the game. I'll be returning in February.

 

BTW, why is ESPN saying Battier, Swift return to Memphis, exit with victory?


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=261107029

 

You do realize that Yao is much bigger than Hayes right. We can really ask Yao to be as quick as Hayes it. It doesn't matter how many rebound Yao gets. It is the way he tips the ball that pissed me off. It is ok if he cannot get the rebound because he is not at the position since he is big and relative slow. But Yao tips the ball way too often.

 

Yeah just like Yao's defense is horrible.

I'm not talking about Morey's geek stats or fantasy fan boy stats and when I say per minute I'm not referring to actual boards.

I'm talking about converted plus rebounds per possession based on reasonable rebound oppurtunities.

Durvasa loves to make commens here like "stats the coaches use"

well the stats don't use crap like Hollinger ratings or crap like More geek ratins or crap like 82games.com ratings

they use something simple like a rebound that should have been gotten was it or was it not?

If not did the opposition get it?

THIS is the REAL and ONLY type of stat that matters and it pisses off those that actually understand the game when these other worthless stats are shoved in your face with all the condescending and arrogant know it all end all be all tone attached to it no less.

Which goes back exactly to the point that tipping rebounds out to teamates is a big no no but "stats gurus" will claim Battier doing so is a "plus"

 

Well said. Right to the point. I guess stamina and conditioning is still an issue to a degree for yao. He simply doesn't have the energy be totally focused every single minute on the court.

 

So how are VSpan and Novak going to get game time experience when our genius JVG will not let them see the court. I am tired of JVG's BS and hopefully this will be his last year here in H-Town. Look at Utah and NO/OK they let there rookies see some pt.

 

When Yao can't grab the rebound he usually have the greater chance of tipping it to a team mate but what happen is opponents get to hold of the tipped or loose balls more often. Yao is good rebounder but he needs to hold the ball well after grabbing the rebound on a crowded paint as smaller players tend to slap and steal the ball away from him.

Anyway nice win by the Rockets tonight. Good thing the Grizzlies cooled off in the 4th co'z they're averaging 30 points in their previous 3 4th quarter games.

 

Chuck's rebound rate? Based on 4 games? I am pretty sure that's a big sample.