ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Celtics 1/2/2008

The team with T-Mac has been nothing but disappointment. It hasn't been able to get out of the first round.

Frankly if this season gets written off I won't be too disturbed as long as the Rockets can lay some groundwork for next season. That means developing Brooks, developing Scola, resigning Bonzi and getting the offense running smoothly with everyone on the same page. I hope that after the All Star break things are looking good and they can put together a couple of long winning streaks, regardless of whether or not their record can get them into the playoffs.

 

you guys are simply forgetting something. in order for yao to score he has to get the ball right? guess where he's getting the ball fed from? yeah rafer takes care of the ball and lately he's actually been aiming to drive it in more, thus improving his FG%. but in the closing minutes of this game i'd like to point out that outside of rafer, brooks has shown potential but not completely there because of his lack of defense (mainly just size, has quickness though for sure), we can't depend on head bringing up the ball. if you expect yao to "carry" the team then please find some better guards for us because we're simply lacking talent in that department. the only reason why tracy would be considered better than yao is because he handles the ball and is able to do more with the ball, sadly he hasn't shown passion to win enough. if only we could somehow infuse KG or Steve Francis' heart into Tracy, then we'd have an awesome record.

 

I agree Scola should be in there, since he's our best rebounder... instead of Head. Brooks hasn't earnerd it yet to take the spot away from ALston yet, but I like when Brooks is on the court, it seems that anything is possible on offense. Scola should be in there because he rebounds the ball on both ends, especially if Yao is guarding KG away from the basket. Head is supurfluous in that situation, since Battier and Alston can take the 3s.

 

Seems to me like Adelman is really stupid by now because Scola has only finished games when he is scoring a lot, and they guy seems like only being judged on that department while he is one of the few players we have that doesn´t lack passion and hustle play.

Bonzi may be good on the offense but i still don´t like his D and quite sure i never will.

 

Did Heat lost to Bucks? It's really a nightmare for Heat's funs.

We are lucky that here is Rox fun BBS, otherwise

 

Yeah but at least we won games and actually made the playoffs. Can you say the same if T-Mac went down last year and Yao had to carry the team? I don't think we even make the playoffs. T-Mac does a better job at carrying the team because the NBA is a guard's league. It's much easier to stop a big man these days than guards. Just like the other poster said, Yao just can't carry the team on his back like T-Mac could. He's not a #1 guy, he needs somebody like T-Mac playing with him.

 

for all the people complaining about putting yao in the game late I bet you would still be complaining if we loss and Adleman was dumb for not putting in yao at the end. Hell, in the game thread poeple were complaining that adleman should put yao in the game when perkins and pollard fouled out. adelman put his best player on the floor to win and it didn't come through. There were a myriad of other things that kept us from winning like battier miss open threes and rebounding, etc.

 

It was a great game. Yao did play well. He is the reason why we had a lot three in the end. Alston was playing like an all-star and also Bonzi. Luther did his job except that those turnovers at the end. Battier was bad. Brooks and Scola did their job. Overall, a nice lose. Losing by 4 points to the team with the best record in the NBA, also in their home, is a big thing. Hope that everyone plays well also with T-Mac.

 

YOu right. T-Mac makes Yao better. Because of T-Mac, there s less pressure on him and it s easier for him. Also, T-Mac makes a lot of plays for him.

 

The difference is staggering - yao shoots 53% with T-mac, and is under 40% without him.

 

how 'bout yao shooting way over 50% under jvg and under 50% so far under adelman? is that something to consider?

 

Again, that has to do with T-mac being out more this season. Yao was shooting 53% with him. Same as with Gundy.

 

how about mcgrady's team won a pitiful 17 games w/o yao and 50+ with yao twice?

i know i am being unreasonable, but i was just applying some of your logic.

 

Well I just like that Bonzi is being more aggressive and dunking instead of laying it up, and Scola and Brooks are showing more of their potential.

I think Head shouldn't be handling the ball. Just give him plays where he comes off screens for open jumpers and cuts to the basket... he can run!

 

EXACTLY. adelman has lost 2 games in a row for us.in golden state game he keeps throwing it in to yao when he knows hes not getting good looks yet he keeps doin it.they already kno what were gonna do. and then he puts yao on kg.wtf! then he takes out scola and brooks(the guy who change the pace of the game and make us kick ass)what the hell is he thinking. DDDAAAAMMMMMMNNNNNN!

 

That was a tough loss to swallow. We were right there in the end, but good teams execute, bad ones don't.

Luther Head: I know he can shoot. But he is quite possibly the most boneheaded player I've ever seen. How hard is it to wait until the big man is ready for the entry pass before you throw it? He makes the same mistake over and over and over again. It's maddening.

Yao: When he went head to head vs. Garnett, that looked like a rerun of Boozer vs. Yao in the playoffs. Yao couldn't do jack with Garnett on defense, and he couldn't score on offense. But the WORST thing of all was the crucial rebound that Yao (once again) failed to get. I watched it over and over on my dvr in disbelief. I'm talking about when Ray Allen came all the way from the 3pt line to grab the offensive board. Yes, Rafer did a crappy job keeping Allen from the basket, but if you watch Yao on that play it was just awful. He just stood there in the lane, no one had him boxed out. The ball bounced straight up off the rim, and Yao stood in the paint paralyzed by indecision. He could EASILY have moved into position to grab it, but just stood there. PATHETIC. Just like the playoffs vs. the Jazz. If we can't count on our big man to grab crucial boards late in the game, we should we count on????

I think I've finally realized that with McGrady, Yao looks like a 1st team all NBA player on many a night, but without him, Yao plays just like a 2nd tier caliber player way too often. So sad.

 

Adelman seems to be a little thickheaded and maybe not the right head coach for this team.

 

I'm sure if we had T-mac we wouldve won

 

I'm not sure what you are referring to - Orlando?

Look, I'm not trying to knock Yao - I'm saying both of them make the other more effective. Yao is struggling without T-mac....and I'm sure Tmac would be struggling to carry the load without Yao.

It's really common sense to be honest, but some folks on this board seem to think that one or the other of our stars is expendable.