ClutchFans Game Thread: Nuggets @ Rockets 11/24/2007

My problem is you are making stupid comparisons. By comparing two different players on different level is stupid just like it is stupid to say Yao sucks because Dwight is better this year. By your logic, Yao can also help the team with rebounds and more blocked shots like Dwight is doing, when his shots aren't falling (i.e. when TMac was out). You see the point don't you? I was also talking about making best use of Yao's talent! apparently you didn't like the comparison, so why the frig are you comparing TMac with Kobe?

 

huh? We were winning with Yao at the elbow, end of story. Again, this quote was when we were 6-2.

Yao: "'This year, it's more up and down and playing more at the elbow. At the elbow, really you don't need much energy. You just need to keep your man behind you, catch the ball safely, and pass to somewhere. And on defense, I don't have any double-team (responsibilities) yet, even against Kobe (Bryant). That will save my energy, let me play longer minutes."

I watched the Dallas game and Yao was getting fronted by Dirk and Brandan Bass (?). Overall, I thought Yao was fed the ball pretty well in the low post as compared to other horrible games I have seen.

Yao infact had two possesessions in the last 2 mins of the 4Q where he had Dirk behind him and he friggin waited 5 secs for double team to come and he passed to Rafer for the 3?!!?! Which of course Rafer bricked. Again, if you watched the game you would know. If you didnt watch it, go to the Dallas game commentary and read what others had to say about these two possessions. I know I was livid he didn't turn around and shoot over Dirk.

 

I am not the one who brought Kobe out in this debate. It is weird that you barked at me only.

Yao did help the team with rebounds and blocks when he was not hot. TMAC did help the team with assists when his shots were not falling in.

It sounds that you are suggesting that TMAC cannot help the team with his assists when his shots are off. That I don't agree with. By the way, we were not talking about that. You just jumped into the debate and started barking at Yao all the time. What's your problem?

 

We were NOT winning with Yao standing at the elbow. I remember the Lakers game the commentators mentioned the fact that the Rox had charted the number of high post vs. low post possessions and it was 4 to 1 in favor of low post. That's the kind of ratio we need to get Yao in a rhythm and to get him going effectively.

Why does he look tentative and hesitant? BECAUSE OF ADELMAN'S COACHING. Adelman is filling his head with the notion that he has to create for teammates and pass when doubled. Under JVG he even shot the ball over double teams.

 

This is the reason why I said what I said. Comparing TMac to the best player in the league is stupid. Again, if only TMac could do what Kobe does... is like saying if only Yao could do what Dwight is doing this year. Get my point?

 

WTF? You are disagreeing with Yao now? Man you are hopeless! Geezuz

 

huh? We were winning with Yao at the elbow, end of story. Again, this quote was when we were 6-2.

Yao: "'This year, it's more up and down and playing more at the elbow. At the elbow, really you don't need much energy. You just need to keep your man behind you, catch the ball safely, and pass to somewhere. And on defense, I don't have any double-team (responsibilities) yet, even against Kobe (Bryant). That will save my energy, let me play longer minutes."

 

Did Yao say we were winning because he was standing at the elbow? No he didn't. He said he was playing more minutes because he was standing at the elbow. This has nothing to do with whether we win or lose. If all you can do is rip quote out of context you are quite hopeless.

 

I gotta give Tracy hes dues. i blasted him after hes pathetic second showing in Miami. but tonight, wow what amazing performance. he played like what he is. our BEST PLAYER. now lets hope he continues this. without tracy having a great night, were gonna be doomed. he is that important to this team.

 

That's Yao's fault. Yao is not great at making decisions in the crunch time. That game should be blamed on Tracy's shooting and Yao's defense, for whatever reasons.

 

Yao is an overated, soft, non-clutch sissy of a center.

 

That's the most pathetic part of this team. When tracy goes off, the team is doomed. I just don't see how we can win games consistently unless Tracy is consistently hot like tonight (well, 13-23 fgs).

 

Adelman must be your and all YOH's best friend because he is remaking Yao into a crappier player who you can hate on. HE is the reason Yao is playing like sh*t. You haters really lucked out with this horrid choice of coach, it played into your hands.

 

You are right. Hope Rox trade him away for some real centers. Any recommendation on the trade?

 

Sigh "This year, it's more up and down and playing more at the elbow." This is after our record of 6-2. Do you have logic? You want Yao to spell this out for you in exact words??

Your whole point is we suck because Yao is not playing as much at the low post as we did under JVG. My point is, even if Yao doesnt play in low post as much, we had been winning. Its only after TMac was hurt, where Yao was in the low post a lot more. You disagree with me, with Fran and now with Yao. Are you delusional??

 

That's why YAO NEEDS TO GET THE BALL IN THE LOW POST.

Adelman is a freaking moron if he thinks McGrady can carry this team to a win every game. Haven't we seen this before in 2004-2005?

 

that's why we have yaozer.

u do know tmac has gone off for several games and we lost. and he has struggled in some games and we won.

this is tmac AND yao's team. when one is down, the other picks it up.

v. miami, both were subpar.

 

Wow do you know how to read? He said he can play more minutes because he is playing at the elbow. He DIDN'T say we were winning because he was playing more at the elbow. Are those the same thing? UM.... NO???

During the Lakers game they mentioned that the Rox chart low post vs. high post touches for Yao and it was 4 to 1 low post. This is when we were 6-2. This is the kind of ratio we need.

 

Neither is TMac or any other Rockets player.

 

you points are nonsense if you don't understand what those posts are talking about. by the way, I think TMAC is as good as Kobe.