ClutchFans Game Thread: Nuggets @ Rockets 1/23/2013

Did you just call glacier a LOH? He is one of the biggest LOFs here.....

He is called efficient because during the first 30 or so games he could score like 30+ points and it would only take him 13-15 shots.

Ok so harden isnt efficient for his TO/FGA/FTA totals. Add all those for Harden and you get 26.65. If you do the same for the great shooters like Durant you get 26 and for Lebron James you get 24.45, I guess that means they are also inefficient. Problem with Harden is his FG% is pretty low, and of course he turns it over a lot.

 

Under Mchale....honestly, I don't. I think he'll end up either being misutilizied, underutilized or overutilized to a fault. Take your pic. I also think he'd be amused as to what McHale calls coaching.

 

What you mean? Patpat and Morris are mainly spot up shooters. Parsons mainly pump fakes with 2 hands, drives, gets called for travel or turnover. Asik needs a perfect pass to be able to score inside. Lin is linconsistent.

 

Against the bobcats, do you think he could do that if he was on our team and played the Nuggets? Smith would help us (due to our PF being so inconsistent), but we would still need more help

 

So I just saw McHale's post-game interview.



Said ball has gotten, you guessed it, "sticky". Misses when the ball was "flying around". I guess he expects the guys to come up with plays themselves, it's not like that's his job or anything.

Said Lin will be, you guessed it, "fine" with the constant benching. He just wanted some stops. My question is, was Jeremy really THAT bad today defensively? Could've sworn in the 3rd everyone's defense collapsed and we never got a stop anyway.

Said we have to go back to our pace, we gotta run!!. Easy for him to say when he's not the one being asked to run non-stop for a ridiculous amount of minutes on back2backs.

 

Pretty much. Ever since that Hornets game from where we started losing, the opposing teams have been using the above strategy to beat us (The Bobcats game was barely a win we just got lucky that Harden got the whistles).

It's amazing the league has figured us out while our coaching stuff hasn't come up with any adjustment after almost 9 games. Our losing streak has less to do with fatigued legs than to do with our incompetent game plan. If we don't make serious adjustment in terms of rotations and team defense, I expect we continue to lose, even to some scrub teams.

 

Maybe not but he wouldn't let Wilson Chandler walk in from a layup. He will effect drives. He had 13 rebounds and 16pts and a win against Den though

 

Like you have said, if coach's instruction to pass the ball to player A, then regardless who, the team will be played like crap. Unless they trade for a superstar who can tell the coach to go **** himself.

The whole problem here is coach. The Rockets have talents, but they are not be used at all. I am not saying they are OKC or the Heats, but at least better than the Knicks. The Knicks is old and slow, yet Woodson understand the players and use them right and they win games. How does Woodson does it? Simply, defense, defense, defense. On the offense end, he borrow a page from his old boss MDA. There are some ISO, which Melo wants, but NOT every single play.

 

Yeah I agree he would help us though. I'd just like some consistency from our PFs for once

 

You just started watching basketball?

 

Lin played as good or better defence than TD and Beverly. Lawson still scored . But Lin played good team defence

 

...and got benched.

 

Not sure how many poinst Lawson scored with Lin on the floor in the 3rd, but they both had about the same stats going into the 3rd quarter. There was some spark in the first part of the 3rd, but things starting slipping pretty fast though.

 

Rockets really don't lose much at the pg position even when Lin sits that's the prob. Lin needs to make himself stand out more.

 

I didn't watch the entire 2nd half, but I watched the majority of the 1st. Lin played decent, better than usual at least.

He was slightly more aggressive (made a 3 pt play) and got to the FT line if i recall. And he turned it over only twice? He must've done something in the 3rd quarter that pissed McFail off, which is why he sat out the entire 4th. Then he proceeds to run Harden into the ground, even when the game was an obvious loss. Smh.

 

True. But the real problem is the Houston's PGs seem to be having the same infliction of dribbling to the halfcourt, passing the ball over to Harden, and go hang out by the corner.

 

I just want to come in a say this.

What's wrong with sticking to what happened 2nd qtr? Harden is getting hammered, bashed, and fatigued cause 40+ minute per night + aggressive defense. Lin and Parsons were getting screens and it caused chaos to the Nuggets because they didn't know who to defend. When this happened, Harden had less pressure and was able to have more free space making him MORE efficient.

WHY THE EFF did we change it back to ISO Harden in the 3rd qtr? It screws him up and causes him way more turnovers than he actually is supposed to have. When you run plays for 3 penetration, the defense has to pick a poison to double team. We saw them double teaming Lin freeing up Parsons, Morris, and Harden. All of a sudden we were shut down again when no plays/screens were made for anyone but Harden.

Seriously, Harden is going to get injured sooner or later. Tonight was a good preview of what fatigue could do. He collapsed everywhere and got elbowed. Is McHale's objective to ruin Harden's career for good or something?

 

So you think this is Lin's problem? Give me a break.

 

I don't remember where I read it (someone tweeted it and it was posted here) but wasn't Lin benched a few games ago before he would dribble the ball to the half court himself instead of passing it off? He was warned and then Mchale and Sampson had a talk with him after the first couple of times. Maybe thats why our PGs are doing that, so it could be the coaches fault or Morey/Les if they are telling our coaches what to do.

 

I will say one thing about Lin. It's wrong to say he's going to sit because of defense. TD and, to a certain extent, Beverly, jump out on their man from the half court line waving their arms around and hopping up and down, but they are not superior defenders. Beverly was getting blown by easily and both are smaller and weaker.