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ClutchFans Game Thread: Mavericks @ Rockets 2/15/2007

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. Verbatim

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    All this crying after a close game. Sure we could have won, sure the miss FT was bad from an ALL-STAR. (Dirk hits 90%). They got out played the last minute and they did not manage the timeouts correctly. That is the coach's fault.

    As for the record not really good, ARE YOU CRAZY? When Yao went down, there way many predictions of a 0 fer Jan and "let's hope we are .500 when Yao is back and we are not out of playoffs.

    Where is the team now?

    Losing to the best time in the league AND could have won it is not that bad. They are the best BECAUSE they can play 48 mins and Rockets played 47.

    Question: in the big scheme of things, is the lost to Mavs any worst than if we lost to Kings 2 days ago? The record is over 82 games. So the awesome OT win is just as important so give Head a break. Besides, he had to shoot it. Double Team on TMAC was taking him out of the play. The "zone" thru the team for a loop and they paniced.
     
  2. BenignDMD

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    I agree, but the Mavs D was very good at the end of the game. They anticipated a pass to TMAC and they were half way there before he caught the ball. What was he supposed to do then? It turned out to be a lose lose situation. Even when he did get the ball backcourt with like 40 sec left, he got dbl teamed immediately and had to pass it. After that our guards did not know what to do. They looked like chickens w/o their heads.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Did you guys hear Craig Sager say that Yao will not be back until the end of March?

    He said that he had talked to Yao and that was the plan?

    I thought he was possibly coming back sooner, no?

    DD
     
  4. BMoney

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    I was just about to write what Verbatim said. It's gonna be ok, people.
     
  5. rocketsmetalspd

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    Yao probably told him that to keep him away. Yao should be back early March.
     
  6. ShadyMcGrady

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    T-Mac didn't shy away, genius, he took over and hit all those tough 3's to keep the game in contention.

    They didn't give him the ball and he was pissed about it but they had no timeouts to work it out.

    Terrible final minute, we shouldn't have let Dallas get away with that one. :mad:

    Yao, don't rush, but realize that teams can double and triple T-Mac like it's a picnic party without you in the game.
     
  7. BrotherFish

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    FREE KIRK SNYDER!!!!!!!!!! This league is about matchups and against Dallas Kirk is the X factor we needed. Bonzi gave up 6pts in a row to HowardJosh. Kirk can outrebound as good as Bonzi when he sets his mind to it. With T-Mac taking all the shots, we just needed someone cutting to the basket. Also, when they double T-Mac, we have to get it to someone who can dunk on anyone who happens to be in the paint. At least, you get FT out of the foul. JVG seems to underestimate the effect of momentum in a game. One dunk by Kirk over Dirk would be equal to 6 or 7 pts by Bonzi. I believe their are certain chemicals released in the brain which gives the players the feeling of "Bring it on, MoFo's" when that happens. For example, how did we feel when Luther dunked. That's kind of what I'm talking about. I see Dallas doing the all the time, they make a few emotional plays and they are off to the races for the rest of the game. It seems sometimes that JVG over analyzes X's and O's and does not give enough credit to plays that inspire passion.
     
  8. tigermission1

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    He's not going to shoot 100% from the charity stripe...and a couple of his misses were immediately after he took a swipe from that a-hole Josh Howard...I don't understand how missing FTs is "shying away" from anything, if it was as easy as you think it is then everyone would shoot better than 90% and it would be a non-issue.

    McGrady isn't a great FT shooter and he never will be, but he isn't bad either (he's slightly above league average).

    You have no case here at all...

    Better than OK, especially late when he just took over. It literally took his own teammates freezing him out to put an end to his heroics on BOTH ends of the court.

    Duh! He still came around picks and got open -- twice -- long enough to get the ball, but alas his teammates (Rafer and Luther) thought they had a better idea.
     
  9. BenignDMD

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    As a side note, there were way too many Mav fans at the game. And once again, the "suits" started leaving wih us down by 1 with 4.4 sec left and Terry at the line. We have lost 7 home games now, 2nd best home record I think, how can people be so stupid?!?
     
  10. SuperYanthrax

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    It contradicts what he has said in about 3 consecutive interviews over the past week. I think Craig Sager heard wrong.
     
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    Dikembe and Hayes should not be on the floor at the same time. As difficult as it is to get this offense going, it's going to be that much harder playing 3 on 5 offensively. With a lineup of head, rafer, hayes, howard, and dikembe, the primary offensive option is Juwan. If that's denied, Rafers dribbling is next. Three options from Rafer's dribbling...pass the ball to Head if he's open, pass the ball to Hayes down low if he's open, or TEAR DROP. A 33% chance of tear drops is not a comfortable forecast
     
  12. BenignDMD

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    It was odd, TMAC missed those 3 FT's in a row once we all started chanting MVP.
     
  13. BenignDMD

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    That is what I was screaming the last 5 min of the 3rd. I could not believe that lineup was in the game. I was pissed. On top of that a Mavs fan was sitting right next to me :mad: I wanted to knock his flopping ass out.
     
  14. desihooper

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    It's inexcusable for van Gundy to mismanage the game that poorly in the second half. Bonzi and T-Mac BOTH on the bench when the Mavs made their 12-0 run to end the third. Then, to compound that, they had to use a freaking TO just to get those two into the game in the last 24 seconds of the third quarter. That TO loomed very large at the end of the game!
     
  15. SuperYanthrax

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    Come on, 6/11 from the line is horrible. It's Shaq-esque. If I shot 6/11 from the line, I would be ashamed.

    69% FT% overall is really bad given that McGrady is supposed to be a great shooter and plays SF. That kind of FT% is only acceptable for bigs.
     
  16. sammy

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    If and when we meet Dallas in the playoffs, we have no shot if Juwan is guarding Dirk. JVG is supposed to defensive genious, right? Did he honestly think that Juwan could guard him w/o a double-team? Everything happens for a precise reason and I hope he learns from his mistakes.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    If Tmac is going to be truly an effective leader and take over in the 4th, he has to hit his free throws.

    Tmac has been pretty bad at the free throw line this year, below his career average....I hope he gets it fixed by the playoffs, where just like tonight...EVERY POINT counts !!!

    DD
     
  18. DaDakota

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    I know...where was the double team on Dirk when he was going off in the 4th?

    DD
     
  19. A_3PO

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    There ain't no way we could trust a rook like V-Mac in the playoffs. He would be even more likely to crumble than Rafer. We need an experienced NBA player to plug in at PG when the mental midget gets jittery.

    And you people that think Bonzi will turn into Superman later on need to come back from outer space. NBA games are played on planet Earth. I'm hoping Bonzi will get better, but he ain't gonna magically morph from Mr. Fumbler Bumbler Stupid Foul Man into what he did to the Spurs last season. That person died when the Kings were eliminated and will never return.

    You want to talk about shying away? How about Dirk during the last 3 possessions when Tracy was guarding him. It was like he gave up on offense. If you ask me, that is a great sign if we meet them in the playoffs.

    I repeat: This loss hurts really bad, but this game is positive overall. Rafer was the huge negative.
     
  20. yaoluv

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    chill out

    if yao can score 3 more points than deke '4 points' mutumbo, we win this game.

    mavs are scared.
     

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