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ClutchFans Game Thread: Mavericks @ Rockets 12/15/2007

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 13, 2007.

  1. earth

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    10 rebounds in the 1st half, only 4 in the second half. I have to say 20 rebounds for Yao is the premise to win the game, lookat the FG of Tmac and SF3. injury is not excuse for too much shots, Tmac 18 shots SF3 8 shots and it is 6/26!!!! why don't dish the ball to Bonzi, Scloa and Head????
    they should bring Scloa\Bonzi\Yao... into the game. Their shots kill the game. Tmac has to change his style, injury is not excuse absolutely, otherwise, he or Adelman have to go this season, maybe both. Tmac is very brilliant, he should diminish his long-range jumpers, why he refuses to give other teameats chances? riduculous. Look at Spurs, without Duncanm the team still runs smoothly and kicked Mavs' ass. It's time to make some changes.
     
  2. Pueblo

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    At this point, I don't know what else could be done to make this team better. TMac seems to have decided to quit, meaning he will do his part when the team plays well, but will take it easy when facing adversities. Steve (sigh...) just does not have it anymore. Without the discipline this team used to have under JVG, I just don't see how this team could do better. You see, with this so-called "motion" offense, Yao does not get as many touches as he used to. As a result, our offense efficiency just goes south when no body else can make a shot. Maybe by using Aaron Brooks, this team may get a spark in the offense, and maybe that is all this team needs. Who knows.
     
  3. Rockets111

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    With Yao and TMac on this team, you HAVE to have a Win Now policy. But Rockets management is fooling themselves. With Yao and TMac as their core, they won't be sniffing the second round anytime soon, let alone the Finals.
     
  4. Yetti

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    Sorry but Rafer is not a true Point Guard!!!! Especially if you consider a true Point Guard is the Floor General and Playmaker and occasional scorer!
    Brooks does have the chance of becoming this person if he is directed and coached correctly! :p :p
     
  5. IndonesiaFans

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    We have been putting too high hope to this team since pre season.. the trade make us believe the Rocket will be a contender.. but now facing the reality, we get frustrated with the Rockets lossing trend.
    how long we need to suffer this? we change our mindset or the rocket must change. Poor us..
     
  6. northeastfan

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    A PG needs to be able to finish and be a legitimate scoring threat since he'll have the ball in his hands for much of the time.
     
  7. Yetti

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    That isn't quite true Tracy could play for another five years and Yao for possibly 7 years.
    Remember how long it took the rockets to build a Championship team in the Hakeem era. :p
    AS I said at the end of last season when we knew that Tracy's back could be fixed that we should trade him them. Now we WONT get our money's worth!!
    The team needs
    A Floor General, Point Guard
    Two athletic scorers
    One back up Center-It going to take three years, nothing less!!
     
  8. Blurr#7

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    Well in all honesty this team is made up of mostly JVG type players, Morey has to take this into account and get some players who can fit into this system.(And yes I also think Tracy was castrated at at birth) I do feel for Yao because he was really into the game tonight.
     
  9. New Jack

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    Amen to that.

    Part of the blame has to go to the fans as well. They’re the ones always screaming “WIN NOW” or “This has the be the year. We finally got the missing piece” or “We don’t have time to develop any rookies”.

    The ironic thing is, Tracy Mcgrady wanted to be traded away from Orlando because he didn’t want to go through a rebuilding process. Yet, it took the Magic all of 3 seasons to basically rebuild from scratch, and they’re already closer to being a contender than the Rockets are.

    It goes to show you what patience, long term planning and foresight can do. As opposed to trying to take a bunch shortcuts by adding a bunch of retread veteran role players, like the Rockets have.
     
  10. doublebogey

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    Tracy has a point but he should talk to the managment instead of speaking out in public. I know it's frustrated when u need to pass the ball to Chuck Hayes who's wide open under the basket and HOPE Hayes will make 1 finally, OR, pass the ball to Rafer Alston who's wide open at the 3 pt line and HOPE Alston will make 1 finally. I dont like his quitter mentality either. Hello, T-Mac gets paid roughly 1/3 of the salary cap.

    When the Rockets are so "TALENTED" that they have Chuck Hayes as your starting PG and Rafer Alston as your starting PG, then the Rockets have PROBLEMS.

    "WIN NOW" is basically what goes wrong with the Rockets 3 seasons ago! Otherwise, the Rockets should be an elite team by NOW.
     
  11. hermbob

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    Well RA was touted as a guy that's able to build a system around the talent he's given. And this team won 52 games with LESS than what's here noe. If it aint broke, don't fix it.
     
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    To me it is mostly about playing with passion. Tmac needs to accept his responsibility as a leader and fire up the troops. When his body language says "I give up!" what do you think the others guys will do. While I don't think we are championship caliber right now, if we played with a bit more fire we could win some of these games that are close in the 4th. Tmac needs to lead!
     
  13. ddu

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    I didnt watch the game, but I feel Rox played awlfully except Yao after I checked the game stats.
    I think Yao's facial expression tells us exactly what he felt about the game, and rox as well.
    [​IMG]
     
  14. DaDakota

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    Ain't it funny how Michael Jordan won with Dennis Rodman as his starting PF......

    Some players just make others better, some.....just make excuses.

    DD
     
  15. hooroo

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    less? so far this season's team is proving to be the one that is lesser. it's looking like they've only added has-beens who can't shoot anymore and rookies who still need time.
     
  16. walker

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    agreed!!
     
  17. BrooksBall

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    I'm with you, man.
     
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    Whats your point? DR was one of the premier defensive player in that era and is a rebounding machine. That jordan lead team also wasn't the most efficient offensively and they win mostly by defense alone.

    Anyway, we all know your dislike for t-mac,JVG and Rafer.
     
  19. BrooksBall

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    All fans want to "WIN NOW" so I don't think that is a factor.

    You are right about the Magic and how quickly they turned things around.

    They started by getting rid of Weisbrod. Maybe Morey will turn things around eventually.
     
  20. Blurr#7

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    I understand that but let be honest our starting line up still the same, So the fact that we struggle to score with them is no surprise. Last year we relied so heavilly on the 3 that it turned everyone into a one dimensional player. Rafer, Battier, Head all shot the three like it was a high percentage shot. It became a bail out shot wich thank god they were knocking down. This year well everyone is not hitting compiled with a new system, coach, and less emphasis on D we got major problems. The one guy I really wanted to stay on the coaching staff was Thibodeau, this guy is hell of a asisatant coach.
     

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