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ClutchFans Game Thread: Mavericks @ Rockets 12/15/2007

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 13, 2007.

  1. OrangeCountyCA

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    I didn't watch the game. But looking at the final box score, I am very disappointed at Francis's stats line. It seems like he had a horrible game (5 turnovers WTF :mad: ). I'm really sad that the Rockets lost another game. But I'm glad that I wasn't there watching them lose today...
     
  2. Bleeding Red

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    Yeah..agree, said it many time. When Tmac involves in balance attack: create plays and scoring early instead of looking to score, we're better off. Every time Tmac just jacking up shots offense go stagnant and end up with isolation plays instead of easy baskets.
     
  3. northeastfan

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    As Clyde said during the game, you've got to play all out if you're out there; otherwise, sit on the bench. Put way more plainly, TMac HURT THE TEAM BY HIS PLAY TONIGHT. He needed to take himself out of the game. It is foolish pride to think that a "superstar" who can only walk around can help a basketball team.
     
  4. RocketsHero

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  5. Summer Song Giver

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    Homey stop it, you have no idea how much we Rockets fans suffered and bled to get those two championships, to much for you to refer to them as a coupe of "win-now" teams, do you ever realize why the Sonics and Jazz are so hated around here?

    Les simply makes decisions based on what his basketball people tell him.
     
  6. Rockets1616

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    At least give some reasoning on your side.
     
  7. crimmy88

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    Francis had a good first quarter...but it went downhill from there..especially in the third >=(
     
  8. Andyman0123

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    A new coach => JVG
     
  9. scv_rockets

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    Actually......
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3153959

    Kobe is happy in Los Angeles and does not want to be traded.
     
  10. Tfor3

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    Brooksball:

    Ok, if you believe that les is the problem..put it in your sig, if later it becomes widely accepted..we will throw a party for you at chuck E Cheese. Now, please give it a freaking rest already about Les Alexander. :mad:


    who's with me :confused: ;)
     
  11. BrooksBall

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    I won't stop it, homey.

    The fans bleeding has nothing to do with it. This is not about the fans. I am a fan. This is about an NBA franchise that continually makes bad decisons on top of bad decisions, compiling the problem and never fixing it.

    Les has the wrong people around him and is responsible for that, too if he is listening to others.

    I'll concede that it may be more than just Les but he is part of the problem.

    The Rockets have bad management and I think the problems of today will continue to some degree as long as Les is making any decisions.
     
  12. Rockets1616

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    Adelman put Tracy in. If he had taken himself out, then everybody on this board would be bashing him. He did exactly what you said he should do against the 76ers, took himself out of the game, and 90% of the people on this board wanted to trade him. He was doing what he could, but he was injured. It was Adelmans decision to put him in. Whether injured or not, the coach told him to play, so he did.
     
  13. tsunami

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    No I didn't and won't give any reasons, cause I was just teasing him, noticing that he posted the same stuff again and again. :D
     
  14. Andyman0123

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    Yao also leads in minutes. He played 41:49 according to NBA boxscore. Lognest than any other team members.
     
  15. BrooksBall

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    Why should I give it rest?

    So we can spend the next 5 weeks pointing at Tracy McGrady and Rick Adelman.

    I would think it is a breath of fresh air to point at something different for once, especially when it is the real problem!

    The only way to fix the Rockets is to fix management. Then wait a few years and you will see results.

    I'll bet a nut on it.
     
  16. Rockets1616

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    Oh haha ok
     
  17. Bleeding Red

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    The solution for this team is to PUT OFFENSIVE PLAYERS to perform in the offensive system. Rafer, Battier, Hayes don't possess offensive skill to do well in this system. When will these players don't pointing finger and produce like they suppose to?? MJ and Head are playing poorly compare to previous years.
     
  18. dadesokan

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    From Listening to TMacs Post Game comments, I think I know why he is playing like he has quit on this team. He says that dallas is a great offensive team that executes very well, and Rockets is Just a Good team, that cannot seem to separate themselves and be a great time, like the mavericks, By his own admission he says the rockets are just a good team and as long as they stay a good team, THEY CANNOT GET TO THE NEXT LEVEL. He said its been the same way since he has been here 4 years, and he said he was to be on a team classifed as great which the rockets have not been able to do become in his 4 years here. He said he does not know what can be done to turn it around

    I would conclude that TMAC has quit on this team, He does not feel this current team can get to the next level and admits that they will remain inconsistent. He also said that it make no sense for him to be great every night if the other players dont play great (He did not call out anyone). He concluded that the team needs to just play better at this point, but has no answers what to needs to be done.

    Seems like TMAC is just collecting a paycheck right now, and when the team gets behind in games he calls it a night. I think he would not might being traded at this point. I think if thinks go on this way, YAO will ask for a trade cause the guy wants TO WIN.

    Now I see why James was traded to houston and Steve paid off in Portland. These players are over the hill right now. ROCKETS need to trade TMAC and some of the role players for KOBE. Either do to trade or fire RA as he does not have the plays to run the motion offense. the players are just not suited for this offense, they were more suited for JVGs offense. Bringing back JVG will not get us a championship, but we may be able to get past the first round if he can get this team to compete at a high level again; since we have upgrade offensively this year.

    LES and MOREY, ITS TIME (for a change)
     
  19. djnswdjn

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    we should start a vote on who to blame on, here are the options:
    adelman
    Yao
    Tmac
    the PGs
    the shooters ( if we have any)
    the rest of the bench
    and Alexander..
     
  20. BrooksBall

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    LMAO!!!

    You are complaining about posting the same stuff AGAIN AND AGAIN!

    Isn't that all people do after every single game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is Tracy's fault or this is Adelman's fault or this is Rafer's fault or this is Yao's fault.

    That is all people say in one way or another.

    At least, I am bringing a new idea to the table.

    For the record, I do believe that many of the complaints like those above are valid but I also believe that there is a much deeper underlying problem that created all these problems.

    You know what I think that problem is.
     

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