ClutchFans Game Thread: Magic @ Rockets 12/19/2007

Right, intensity is a good thing.

For the sake of the discussion I was having with the other guy, the most intense player in history (MJ) was by no means the best shooter of his time or any time.

 

I'm trying to make this easy for you by saying that the "majority" of the plays ran for Yao are down low in the post....you'll see him at the top of the key on occassion, but he stays down in the box and kicks it out to wide open shooters that just aren't hitting their shots.......once again I ask if you watched the game last night when numerous "open" shots were missed......

what would be the big deal about telling him the truth?.....the worst he could do is hit me, which would benefit me more than anything...I really wouldn't have a problem with telling him as a long time rockets fan that I think he plays soft, uninspired ball at times, and that he doesn't like taking personal responsibility (I'm sure I'm not the only that would do such a thing either)...I don't really consider him to be "elite" at what he does, and the NBA doesn't make the world go round so I don't hold this "man" in awe..........there are much more important things that people do on a day to day basis, than a guy who chucks up jump shots the entire night..........what I plan to do as a career is a lot more important than a basketball game.......

did I say that???...did I say that you will become the best shooter with intensity???...no.............I stated that lack of intensity can cause you to be less aggressive and flat on the court which can have an impact on your all around play (including shooting)........

 

Which leads back to that orignial post made, intensity has nothing to do with them bricking so many jumpshots.

 

of course.........you guys are right like always...............all hail T-mac!!!

 

We could be wrong, but somehow I doubt it.

 

I actually remember Popovich saying that Finley's excessive intensity was causing him to miss shots. i will look for a link to that.

Popovich recommended that Finley lighten up and stop trying so hard to make shots.

Being relaxed, composed and GOOD AT SHOOTING leads to making shots while intensity and aggression are attributes that lead to good rebounding, good defense and effective penetration to the basket.

 

Dude, no. He can do FAR worse, like start crying and have his dripping mascara ruin your favorite shirt.

And I think most scientists as well as Christians now believe that life on earth started in 1891, when basketball was invented.

 

Exactly, intensity implies aggressiveness and hustle the way we use it around here which has nothing to do with missing shots.

If you are using the word intensity to mean concentration, that is the only way it makes sense.

 

T-mac is a quitter

Because he tried to play hurt?

NEGATIVITY ONCE AGAIN

 

Below is a link to an article on this topic.

The title of the article is Michael Finley Learns To RELAX And Helps Spurs Win

Definition of relax: To reduce in INTENSITY; slacken: relax one's efforts.

See definition here: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/relax


Finley/Popovich article link: http://ezinearticles.com/?Michael-Finley-Learns-To-Relax-And-Helps-Spurs-Win&id=634292

The idea in this article is that Finley needs to ease up and stop trying to hard to be perfect so he can just RELAX (REDUCE INTENSITY) and be the good shooter that he is.

 

lol this is getting ridiculous.....you actually took time out to find some lame ass link to support your argument....anywho on to tonight, because I don't have time sit up and argue on a board over what a "word" means....

 

Yao dominated Dwight Howard in rebounding last night. The points were basically a push, but rebound, Yao dominated Howard!

 

Yao also didn't show up offensively until late in the 4th quarter...he allowed Dwight to push him around too much last night....that lead to a lot of fade away jumpers........

 

In other words, you admit that the lack of intensity is not the main reason why the Rockets are missing so many wide open shots.

By the way, that article is not lame but, in fact, perfect evidence of the point we were making to you.

That brings us to the real reasons why the Rockets are struggling with making open shots. I say these are three the primary reasons.

1. Players like Luther, Shane and Rafer are not getting as many wide open looks this season in large part due to Yao spending increased time in the high post. What is the solution? Either Adelman stops using Yao in the high post or the shooters need to learn to mix their decreased wide open 3pt opportunities with more penetration leading to mid-range jumpers and getting to the rim. Alternatively, if these guys can not do that effectively (which appears to be the case), Morey needs to look for new players that have such skills or Adelman needs to give players like Bonzi and Kirk (who can penetrate) even more of Luther's and Shane's minutes.

2. The players are concentrating so much on getting familiar with and executing Adelman's motion offense that they are unable to concentrate fully on shooting. Only time can fix this problem. As the new offense becomes second nature to our perimeter players, I expect them to be able to zone in and fully concentrate on their shots. Eventually, individual and team shooting percentages should go up as the players get more accustom to the new style of play.

3. The players that are getting the most minutes right now just don't have the skillsets to be highly effective in this system. This point was touched on in the first section but I think that Snyder and Bonzi should be getting a lot more minutes than Luther and Bonzi. With a decrease in wide open outside shots available, we need players that can finish around the rim off of cuts more effectively. I think it is very obvious that Kirk and Bonzi can do this better than Luther and Shane. Luther and Shane were ideal for JVG's offensive schemes but they are equally ineffective under Adelman.

The other option is for Morey to use players that have some value like Luther and Shane to bring in a player or two that better fit Adelman's offensive initiatives. I have to believe there are is something more suitable we get in exchange for Luther, Shane and maybe even Francis and Hayes.

 

Yao also started the game strong offensively and we got away from what was working because players were not hitting shots (not due to a lack of intensity though, hah ha).

 

fixed

 

It just means he has a well thought out argument and has something to support his opinion.

What do you have? Supposition and guesswork.

Guess who's posts hold more weight

 

Another big loss, with or without TMAC. We are doomed.

 

we have two RA.

 

It is not a matter of playing hurt.Isiah Thomas played with a broken foot running up and down the court.We appreciate any player that played while injured .It is Tmac's attitude that bothers the fans.

When you are injured and you cannot get your elevation,you play a different role.You play as a play -maker and not a scorer.You don't jack up 10 shots and just made one with one assist and zero free throw in 18 minutes of play.

Even when he is not injured,if his shooting is cold ,he will keep shooting hoping to shoot himself out of the slump.Players like Kobe will go hard to the basket initiated contact and try to get his shooting touch back by shooting free-throws.

Tmac is a very very good player, make no mistake about that.But to be a great player,talent is not enough.You need to have the heart ,the determination,the drive to win (the hatred to loose) the willingness to do any thing to succeed. When you are making 20 millions a year ,playing with injury is not a big sacrifice.Isiah Thomas played with a broken foot hobbling all over the court.Even the so called ""softie" Yao played thru pain and blood soaked toe for months without any complained,