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ClutchFans Game Thread: Lakers @ Rockets 3/3/2004

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Mar 1, 2004.

  1. canoner2002

    canoner2002 Contributing Member

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    I think language barrier is playing a role here. Besides, he had to run back to defense end. It should be JVG's or Ewing's job to yell at whoever refuse to feed Yao the ball when he should.
     
  2. gasnapalm

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    just wanted to ask... to the people who say yao should have demanded the ball more...why in hell does he have to demand the ball when hes shooting over 50%? i mean why stop doing whats working its so obvious why the HELL does he have to demand the ball?
     
  3. haven

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    But you're wrong. If you play slightly above average all game, then make terrible decisions repeatedly at the end when the game's in the balance, you didn't have a good game.

    It wasn't that they just made one bonehead play at the end. It was repeated idiocy on many successive plays. I thought the worst were on the 4 consecutive possessions where they didn't even move the ball to Yao's side of the floor, failed to score each time, and gave up a 10 point lead.

    If you screw up 4 consecutive possessions in the 4th quarter... you did something seriously wrong in a game.
     
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    Because Yao has tremendous potential to become one of the greatest centers of all time and bring some more banners to H-town. That's why, my friend. Throw it down, big man, throw it down.

    Memo: April's Fools Day: Lakers Lose

    "The Fantastic Four" Lakers defeated by "The Avengers" Houston Rockets

    Rockets 110
    Lakers 80

    MAKE ON THAT!!!!!
     
  5. oliver_67

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    This game is gonna be huge for Yao and the Rockets franchise. Now the whole league know that it was no fluke that Yao outplayed Shaq last time, and the pressure will be on for the Rockets management team to make moves to build the team around Yao.

    If the guards do not defer and play Robin to Yao's batman, you will be packing the bags and get out of the town.
     
  6. canoner2002

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    I don't think people are being harsh on guards as some other nights. It is just frustrating, you know? Stick with the plan, and not walk away from your #1 offense force. How hard is it? I want a bit consistency. If we get totally outplayed basketball wise, it is a different story. But tonight, we beat ourselves (with the helf of refs), and it is getting real old.

    I always think it is easier to make a player think stright than shoot stright. Why is it so hard on our guards?
     
  7. KeepKenny

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    Yao gave up trying to get the ball. He stopped fighting for position and just ran out to set pick after pick. The few times where he had position, a guard (Pike was the worst offender) jacked up a jumpshot. Now, if Yao is not even in the post, he's not going to get the ball in a position to score. Maybe he was trying really hard to get an open jumper.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Anyone else think I am owed an apology?

    SHEESH !!

    DD
     
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    Because it is his team when the Rockets play against the Lakers. Even our guards made bad decision, Yao will still take most of the blame at the end. He has to lead the team when his teammate make mistakes.

    It's another story when we play any other teams. It could be Steve's team other than the Lakers game. No guards can carry a team against a Shaq's team.
     
  10. canoner2002

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    I agree. Why demand Yao do something so obvious to everyone? I cannot believe people put the blame on Yao for not getting the ball. It seems Yao is held to a much higher standard than everyone else on the team.

    At that moment, everyone except Yao should act as a role player, and the job of a role player is to do what he is told to do. I think JVG owes us an explaination and clarify whether it was his call or guards' improvised plays that caused the ball stay away from Yao.
     
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    Dakota you are owed a serious apology that was why I said people need an attitude adjustment in the first place.. uncalled for.

    J

    hey agg were all Rox fans here lets try to be a lil more polite it actually makes this BBS more enjoyable.
     
  12. DreamWeaver

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    Huh?

    Yao may be good but he is not God. Why is Yao to be blamed when "our guards made bad decisions"?
     
  13. canoner2002

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    I cannot agree. We are talking about grown-up NBA player, not puppies that have to be kept on leash all the time. why is anyone responsible for someone else's repeatly making same mistakes again and again? If a group member does that again and again, I am not going to take the blame, I fire him.
     
  14. Uprising

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    Man what a tough loss....

    Let the Trashing Threads begin.
     
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    Did u really watch the game? or u just have a short memory?

    Every time yao was on the bench, Lakers started their comeback.
     
  16. AggNRox

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    nothing against DD. i have some good friends to use those words when we argue. i apologize if DD feels those words hurt his feeling.

    i was very upset with the loss. i don't mind someone uses same word against me when they have a different opinion.
     
  17. gasnapalm

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    how can he be the "man" if he doesnt get the ball in the 4th? he outplayed shaq again tonight scoring and rebounding more and even playing less minutes than him all that shooting over 60%. Theres gotta be somethign WRONG with you if you dont go to him in the 4th, its sad reading some laker forums and their thanking francis and mobley for giving them that win by ignoring yao
     
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    He's not God but he is the leader in this game. Hell, he took 21 shots. :) If you hold the same standard on a leader and role players, then why bother to set a leader? The leader have to lead: correcting the role players' mistakes is one of the leader's responsibility.

    If this team is gonna built around him, he will have to take more responsibility and be hold a higher standard.

    And of course I hold a higher standard on him, I have a high hope on him.
     
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    you know what? i think kenny's rebounding would have helped tonight.
     
  20. oliver_67

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    Yep, the Lakers forum are begging Houston to lock in the guards for the future so that they can either steal Yao down the road or keep (postpone) him from becoming the MDP in the game.

    If I were Yao, I would demand a trade right now and I am pretty sure the other 28 teams are all gonna sell their souls to get him.

    I am pretty sure that Lakers will trade Yao for Shaq straight up, plus some scrubs to make the trade feasible.
     

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