ClutchFans Game Thread: Lakers @ Rockets 11/13/2004

Relax, people.

We had no McGrady. We traded away our entire backcourt for McGrady.

Yeah, we could've made better decisions. I can't see why anyone is surprised, though. This team still hasn't found itself. It's going to take time.

 

Blow the Lakers away with Tmac not playing? You're dreaming.

 

Is JJ a captain in this team? He is so bad this year, so is Lue. This game shows that Yao can be dominant player in the furture.

 

WOW.....I was bummed cause my recorder screwed up...but KNWS just restarted reshowing the game...


BONUS!!!!

btw....anyone who didnt see the great D that Bowen put on Kobe needs to get their eyes checked....

how dare you say that none of the other players are any good...

Padge, Bowen, Yao all were outstanding tonight...

you people need to realize there is more to the game than just offense...good defense sshould be praised also...and if Bowen hadnt shut down Kobe in the second half...we would have NEVER been back in this game..NEVER.

bunch of reactionary whining babies.

 

I'm not saying he wasn't aggressive earlier, he wasn't aggressive enough when it really counted.

And for the record, I'm not a Yao hater nor am I "bashing" Yao, I'm calling it like I see it. Had any of those three pointers gone down, I'd be fine with that but I would still say Yao should be taking those shots.

 

A wide open 3 pt was clearly better choice for that situation, so Yao did right thing in the playbook. BUT, with the way our premiter playing tonight, he should've jacked up and take the responsiblity, this is what a leader does.

 

i'm just gonna pretend i didn't see mihm rip yao's arm off on a dunk attempt and not get called for a foul.


and yes, yao should've taken that shot instead of passing out b/c he was on but a wide open 3 isn't a terrible decision. that non-call was just huge.


and jim jackson might wanna tone down the fga when he's this off. wide open shots, ok. shooting quick when you're barely open, bad idea.


and no, of course these guards good isn't worth their bad relative to the old backcourt. other people with sweet set shots and low to's/good passing could very well be, but not slow as molasses, unathletic as me guards like we have now. and not lue's dumbass throwing balls out of bounds when we need a 3.


but i said coming back on this team would be pretty easy. we made up the 22 point deficit w/o really even seeming to do much. just like orlando came back on them and just like i assume NO trimmed a 30 point lead to 8. they just don't rebound or shoot well enough to keep up 20+ point leads.

 

Rox score list:
yao 32
JJ 15
other : less than 6.

 

You know what, just a few days ago we almost beat the Wolves without Tmac, and they are one of the top teams. So now you're telling me that a blow out win against the Lakers isn't plausible? The Lakers have no answer for Yao. If Juwan or MoT could've put up even close to their averages, we would've been fine. The Rockets currently have more quality players than the Lakers period. It's mental. With T-Mac gone, the Rockets just don't seem to play at all in the first half of the game.

 

Maybe that statement was too broad, but the 2 plays where we could of had a lead and let the lakers be the ones with their backs on the wall
would have been a better % shot for Ming than the rest of the team especially when he was the one drawing the fouls and the refs giving him the calls -for a change.

Well 2 big games from him and still to L's.
Not a good sign for this team.

 

If you think Yao hasn't stepped up in the last 2 games, I suggest you think back to last season.

True, he passed out one or two times when he should have shot it, but that's trivial to his improvements in aggression, positioning, minutes played, and outright production.

If all you have on Yao is his passing out a few too many times at the end, then that's a small correction to make, and the easiest to do.

Remember how Grant gave Yao fits last season? If the same were true now, you'd be harping about how soft Yao is, how he can't hold his position, bla bla bla.......

If our defense had stepped up from the start, and we had decent perimeter shooting, this game wouldn't be close.

Less than 10 games into the season, sheesh.

 

You have to consider though that one loss was to the Wolves, and that was to be expected.

 

I blame this loss on JVG and Lue. JVG had Yao out for way too long and put him back in when the Rockets were down double digits. It was all downhill from there until we made the comeback. Why would you do that when you know you're playing without T-Mac??

Lue lost the game for us after we came back. That TERRIBLE 3 point airball. There was no need for that shot. The failure to pass the ball inside to Yao and the committing a foul to make things worse. And finally, the HORRIBLE pass to Yao when we obviously needed a 3. And even if we needed a 2, the pass was nowhere near Yao.

I got mad at Yao for passing it out one time when he could have taken the shot, but he played too good, so you can't blame him for anything.

Lue is Norris without the fro.

 

You are out of your mind. The only chance we have before Tmac comes back is to have Yao go off on his offense. He did great tonight. If refs blows calls as they should and as they did in the 3rd quarter this game, Yao will go off every night and we will have a chance to win games. Once Tmac gets back, I hope Yao doesn't light up on his effort, then we will be very tough to play against. But yes, the rest of the team need to show up! Paghette and Bowen are best at passing the ball to Yao. Ward and Lue are too short to see the court. They missed several opportunities to pass the ball to Yao when he was unguarded under the basket.

 

Do u know how many shots he has taken to get 15 points?
Also he took bad shots, and turn the ball over.

 

Good God, what did you people expect, for us to start out the season 7-0? We were without our best player for crying out loud, quit whining. Yao's showing major strides lately and that's all I care for now. You guys just have to accept that this team was not going to be elite this year. These things take time.

 

So u mean Yao+ward+boki+JJ+Mo>Kobe+atkins+butler+odom+mihn??

Are u kidding me?

 

I agree on that particular play of the game, but you can not base Yao's ability and responsibiliy down the stretch on that ONE play.