ClutchFans Game Thread: Knicks @ Rockets 11/18/2004

Isn't it sad when one of the positive things about a Rockets game is that Bobby Sura is sitting on the bench.

Lucky backboard three or not, we blew another big lead in the 4th (which was suppose to be a JVG specialty), and have had consecutive losses to 2 of the worst teams in the league.

 

I wanted to trade Mo for Kurt Thomas a long time ago.

 

Well the only positve I saw in this game was that Houston had a good game regarding turnovers. With our present team Mutumbo needs to play more minutes whether Yao Ming is on the floor or not to help out with rebounding maybe disguise our slow defense by playing a zone Weatherspoon could be serviceable for rebounds too. At the end of games even though Mc Grady went up soft he had the right idea make sure the ball is in his and Yao's hands in a two man game.

Van Gundy really needs to make his substitutions better so the offense and defense can flow smoother. In particular Juwanaman Howard needs to play better he missed some really makeble shots.

Jim Jackson, lue and Ward should not settle for three pointers, Lue had his best game as a Rocket and most of points were lay ups.

These things will certainly help us win games against teams like the Knicks and Hawks.

If we do make trades we need a point gaurd a scorer and a rebounder. Out of those three we may have one or maybe even two of those thing in Bob Sura, but Antonio Daniels would be a nice pick up. Houston does not have a lot ot offer so trades will be tough t make Daniels is probably the best overall player we can make an attempt for.

 

Which Part?

a. Blowing two double-digit leads in the 4th quarter.

b. Losing consecutive games to the Hawks/Knicks.

c. How bad JVG got outcoached in both games, as well as team meltdowns.

d. Getting imbarrassed on National TV.

e. Watching a half empty TC going into the 4th with a lead.

f. All OF THE ABOVE

 

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER THIS. I REALLY AM CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT MAKES JVG's DEFENSIVE SCHEME SO GREAT. READ THE FOLLOWING:





And just out of curiosity, how good is JVG's defensive scheme? I know that's what he's known for but shouldn't good defense translate to defensive stops? Shouldn't that mean people like kurt thomas wouldn't be left open time after time? in the 10 games so far, can anyone convince me how JVG"s defensive scheme is so AWESOME if teams still find a way to score??

 

It's good to know there's alot of other pissed off Rocket fans other than me lol.

I think JVG serves alot better as a TNT analyst than a Rocket's coach. He sounded so masterful when he was commenting on Rocket's games, why can't he apply that as coach?

I'm beginning to miss Steve now.. f*ck!!

 

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER THIS. I REALLY AM CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT MAKES JVG's DEFENSIVE SCHEME SO GREAT. READ THE FOLLOWING:





And just out of curiosity, how good is JVG's defensive scheme? I know that's what he's known for but shouldn't good defense translate to defensive stops? Shouldn't that mean people like kurt thomas wouldn't be left open time after time? in the 10 games so far, can anyone convince me how JVG"s defensive scheme is so AWESOME if teams still find a way to score??

 

Sad but true. Our only hope is that Bobby Sura is the second coming of Larry Bird.

 

JVG used this strategy against the Lakers last year too. He opts to leave the power forward open letting him shoot jumpers. The wierd part about this is that JVG knows that Kurt Thomas is probably the best shooter for the Knicks. The guy is not a bricker. JVG doesn't even know the strengths and weaknesses of the players he used to coach.

 

Rockets are FIRST in the league in opponents scoring and in the top 5 in opponents FG %. Plus, it doesn't matter what defensive scheme you run, you can't stop every player or every team all the time. JVG's defense is predicated on not allowing easy baskets inside and taking away the opponent's one or two best players and making others beat you. Tonight, he decided to let Thomas have the shot rather than Marbury and Crawford. Most teams will play the Knicks this way. It just backfired tonight as Thomas, a good shooter, just couln't miss at all. The one thing I saw that was probably something JVG was dissapointed in was the defensive rotation. The game plan was to allow Thomas to try to beat us, but there still has to be a hand in his face. That was a downfall tonight as the man that was supposed to rotate over, didn't get there fast enough to put more pressure on the shooter.

 

Why are the Rockets shooting worse from behind the arc than the freaking Knicks in the Toyota Center? The Rockets are sliding into a brick landslide.

 

a no b c damn its f

 

Well that sounds fundamental but not profound. More common sense if anything. Wouldn't every single NBA coach in their right minds implement that kind of defense? My point is, I don't see why JVG is so revered for his defense??

 

By the way, how come crawford was still able to score quite a bit if JVG was supposed to shut him down?

 

If Sura can replace Mobley, I will be happy. You can move T-mac to 3, JJ as the backup.

 

Can anyone find the # of points by quarter? Also, the # of shots the Rockets individually took by quarter?

 

Well that sounds fundamental but not profound. More common sense if anything. Wouldn't every single NBA coach in their right minds implement that kind of defense? My point is, I don't see why JVG is so revered for his defense??

 

Well, JVG doesn't run zones out there and there isn't like 100 different ways of playing man-to-man team defense.

1) Gets his team to play alot more aggresive (especially in the passing lanes)

2) Uses defensive switching and rotations very effectively

3) Teaches help defense very well

3) Packs in the paint to make the other team shoot jumpers

I know this doesn't sound profound but it's not rocket science. JVG just knows how to teach these techniques to his teams better than most coaches.

 

Well first off, the fact that he teaches his team to pack the paint to force jumpers, isn't that considered a zone?

Secondly, how hard can it possibly be for ANY nba coach to implement this defensive technique? seriously.

Thirdly, is JVG's defensive scheme the best (or recommended) type of defense for a growing and hopefully successful team??

 

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