ClutchFans Game Thread: Kings @ Rockets 4/4/2004 - 12:00PM CST

him not having a jumper is still a poor reason for arguing he shouldn't take an open layup with that much time on the clock and you know it.

why is the loss all on the guy with 12 assists, 3 turnovers but 3 steals to cancel them out and who only shot 2-10 but held his own man to 2-10 but not a lot on the guy with 6 turnovers and no steals or blocks and who's man/men did shoot decently on him? or on anybody else? it's just all steve.


and feishen, any other of yao's fault's you'd like to pass off on steve while we're here? yao missing 2 footer after two footer (i counted 5 in the second half) and turning it over twice as much was more important than one ill-advised (though it look set up) jump shot with a minute to go.

but as long as the whipping boy gets whipped i guess everyone's happy.

 

Arrogance over post counts? LOL. I don't think so. I couldn't care less how many posts someone has. But when they earn a good percentage of those posts using banned words to whine, I'll call them newbies and lots worse. The quality of discussion on this board has dropped off specifically because of posters like canoner. He is a newbie, from my perspective. He got here around the time a lot of the YOF's did and clearly doesn't understand the game. Further, being a newbie's his only potential defense to breaking the rules of the board with half his posts.

 

... and I'm sure you would have no critcism had Steve shot a "quick 3" ....

 

never!

 

The last plays in the crucial moments. You may say had Yao made those chippies, the game wouldnt even be close. But 9-19 is generally an OK shooting game by any of NBA standard. Of course, we should hold Yao to higher standards. So there is it,
"Yao, yo, make those freaking chippies, will you"

On the other side, our supposed Franchise all star point guard couldnt even run the fast break(it's not only that last miss, believe me), couldnt setup his teammate, except for bailing out. I say we got a bigger problem there. Yao does need some one to setup. SF had the ball down the strech.

"Yao, yo, stopping whimping around and turning over the freaking ball"

We all love Stevie. There is no bashing on SF for the sake of bashing him, is there.

 

If he was wide open, why not, hit one in the Hawk's game. He is not the best 3 pt shooter on this team. But I wouldnt want to see him shoot an off-balance, leaning-in type of 3 pter. He is not that good, period.

 

That is why I will say it will be the last season Steve Franics with Houston.

It is not only because Steve Francis had a near horrible season for his career season, score wise, AST/TO ratio wise or the decision making, but also because he is the only big chip(thanks to CD and Rudy's decision givign up horrible contract) we have to go for 2-3 solid players in return. If we don't do it sooner than later, if he continue to struggle next season, we can't even get much value in return.

 

If not for Yao, we would have been out of the game in the first half. When he sits, we went from 6 points up to 2 points down. And he came back for 3 minutes, we went from 2 points down to 7 points up.
Sorry I cursed a few times. Don't usually do that until this bad stretch. I am not the first to write "fvck", "scr3w", "sh!it" or "b!tch" on this board. I learned from fellow posters. I mean, even if you write **** in your post, people know you mean the f word. Are you concerned about your underage child who visit this board? Kids say these words more than you and me do. what is the big deal between "****", "f***", f*ck", and "fvck"? people know exactly what you mean. Oh well, let's not even indicate we are using those words cause we cannot stand them. I guess we have to quiting going to movies, and unsubscribe HBO, Showtime, etc, 'cause you not only hear this word, you see people do it.

 

No, he is a horrible transition shooter, especially this season. For him, wide open doesn't mean it will be a better chance going in.

I will take the penetration every day, but unfortunately he can't even finish those layups now. That sums up the miserableness of his game this season.

 

Did you actually read 10% of my posts? You are such an arrogant person. first you claim I curse in half of my posts, i would like to see you present 500 such posts. second you suggest i am a YOF, that is just ridulous. My sense is you don't read the board often or you have bad memory. I expressed the same frustration with Yao's taking jumpers in the game thread, but obviously you didn't see it.
I called to send send Yao in with 4 minutes left in the first half, JVG did it and we went from 2 pts down to 7 pts up. I called to play Padgett in the half time break, JVG did as I suggested, and Padghett played great. Roll back a few pages and see for yoursefl. yeah, I really don't understand the game.
Who is being arrogant and making all the hollow accusations? That is pretty newbie like, right?

 

canoner:

I don't have children and, where it's allowed, I curse all the time. It is NOT allowed here. And don't pretend you do it rarely -- you do it often. You did it at least five times in the last game thread. I called you out in that one and you kept doing it. I called you out in this one and you're still doing it. The asterisks are used to blank out unacceptable language. The v's are used to get around being censored. If you want to argue about whether or not cursing should be allowed, take it up with Clutch. You will lose that fight. Everybody who posts here has to follow the same rules. The ones who don't get banned. You've broken them a lot more than several people who've been banned and you should be banned for it too. It's not like we'd be missing much. Anybody can type a bunch of curse words.

 

Wow, five time is too much. I do it only when Rox lost to Clippers by giving up big lead in the 4th. But still not five times though.

 

He is. I meant a wide open shot when his feet is set. He could've backed out a little bit and look for one of trailing 3 pointer shooter on the line, like MJX, that over shoulder back pass. Well, I probably ask too much here.

 

not only we get a pathetic game, but also a pathetic thread.

 

That is interesting. You can live with "f*ck", but not the v substitution. My understanding is Clutch allows people to curse here, cause he knows we are all human. He would not all people to use the exact words, but as long as people sub in a * or v or !, he is cool with that. That is why thousands before me used these kind of substitutions. Tell me how I am different? And besides the Laker game thread, did you see me cursing like this?

I am glad you backed out from all your previous ridiculous accusations. I said "sorry" because you were offended. Do you owe me an apology because your claims such as "half of his posts are curses" or "he knows nothing about the game", or "he is just a YOF"? Are you man enough to say you were wrong?

 

Since when we start bashing thread too? After a loss, everything is bashable. SF is dumb, Yao is too whimppy, make the playoff by winning the rest of games dont matter, someone swears too much, thread is too pathetic. I love it.

 

I am not sure even I posted in the last game thread, the Denver game. I was so busy that day that I didn't have time to visit this board. I certainly didn't see you calling me out. Actually, I don't remember reading any post from you that leaves me an impression.

 

It's not about what I can live with. It's about the rules. You're not supposed to curse at all. If you do, and if you're not sneaky about it (by inserting a v or an *), the whole word will be censored. These aren't my rules, they're Clutch's. And he does not "allow" it.

I didn't call you a YOF. I said you showed up when they did. I said you knew nothing about the game because in the few posts of yours I've read, all you did was call the refs curse words in games we lost by ourselves. I didn't back off anything, I don't owe you an apology and I'm not apologizing.

Also, I wasn't offended. I was just annoyed that you seem to think you get to play by your own rules. You don't. You've gotten away with it so far, but if you keep doing it I promise you'll be banned. In the real world, I curse as much as anybody, but I respect the rules of the board. You should grow up and do the same.

 

Isn't it obvious how you implied I am a YOF. Isn't it obvious what you meant "while a lot YOF's joined who know nothing about the game"? Didn't you say although I have 1400+ posts I am still a newbie because a good percentage of my posts were earned by using banned words of whining?

All you are citing now is a 4-5 posts, and you came up with so many accusations. Not only you cannot back up these accusation, but also you are denying making them in the first place. What an arrogant coward.

 

Again, where did you read that these substitutions are not "allowed"? I just read the rule book, didn't find anything about it.

If "*" substitution is not allowed, it could have been easily censored. The fact that "*" subed words were not censored suggest that using them is within the line. If "*" substituion is allowed, how is it different from "v"? Since you admit that this is strictly a "rule" thing, you still haven't proved I broke any rule, not to speak to prove I broke a rule in a way thousands of others didn't in the past.