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ClutchFans Game Thread: Kings @ Rockets 1/28/2005

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 27, 2005.

  1. Charvo

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    Tolbert, Legler, and Anthony aren't exactly fans of Yao. They are the ones who are on the ESPN Rockets games. Maybe it's better for Bill Walton not to do color for Rockets games. It would sadden him greatly to see what Yao has become. Maybe the Rockets can at least get a Rik Smits' career out of Yao. Les Alexander sat courtside, and he saw his cash cow looking like it had mad cow disease.
     
  2. gucci888

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    Well, only coaches can decide whether to go into zone defenses or not.

    But the pick and roll works especially well for the Kings because both of their big men can shoot the ball and shoot it well. You are blaming Yao (not suprised) but the fact is that the King's big men were setting good picks and our guards were going behind them, therefore Yao has to show on Bibby and try to make it back to defend Webber/Miller,which Yao is too slow to do.

    The pick and roll is the King's bread and butter, and for the 1st half it was unstoppable. Our perimeter D tonight was terrible, Bibby was doing whatever he wanted out there and had our guards running in circles.
     
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    I already said if JVG continues to be the RoX coach, this team will be just like the team that will fight for last spot for playoff year and year. Fire JVG for God sake...
     
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    I like this trade. It's good for both the Rox and Yao.

    Rockets would become a better team with this trade, and Yao would realize his laid-back, gutless style is NOT appreciated and have to become more aggressive to avoid mediocrity.
     
  5. saleem

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    We can't make excuses for bad calls. We could have won but we didn't get the job done.
    Yao does need to be more aggressive instead of behaving like a role player at times by taking more shots. I think it's not in his nature to rock things but he has to change his mindset.Getting a better PF and PG will help him but he is the only one who can bring about change.
    The proposed changes for getting Odom,Butler and Mihm won't help us much.
    We need a physical four who can shoot ,defend and run and a good PG who can pass, shoot the 3 and defend.
     
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    I really don't blame them for not fouling. Notwithstanding Tolbert's usual idiotic commentary, the odds of that strategy backfiring by giving the other team 3 free throws are just too high. I don't even blame McGrady for cheating a little to dog Bibby. He still got a hand in Webber's face. If you were coaching, and you had to take a chance at the end, I'd take a chance on Chris Webber spinning around at the 3-point line and jacking up a prayer. Sometimes, a prayer goes in, and you look bad -- but it was still the right option to risk. Bibby driving with 4 seconds and a chance to dish out or juke his guy in the air for free throws or get a clean look was a worse risk to leave open.
     
  7. KeepKenny

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    The lakers have been so badass with a similar team, how could we not do that trade?:rolleyes:

    Tmac, Odom, Butler=championship!
     
  8. franchise23

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    I just hope the Rockets can put this loss behind them quickly because they have anther tough road trip coming up.
     
  9. Man

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    Padgett did good. Tmac missed a lot of 3's but made a lot too.
    Yao did all right..Sura and Barry made some costly turnovers..Wesley made shots and airballed a big one. Juwan did all right.

    Webber what he did was not cool lol but oh well pretty smart.
    And Bibby's darn good. MObley did good he was emotional. Brad Miller does good although he sorta has an attitude.

    Too bad we couldn't clsoe it out. We almost had the win. Webber made a shot..which was almost blocked..and yeah we screwed up
     
  10. Frodo

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    Actually, JVG did want to foul them at the end of the 4th qtr. After the game, T-mac admitted that he was suppose to foul and he let the team down by not fouling....
     
  11. Charvo

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    The Lamar Odom that played with the Heat was a very good player. The Lamar Odom that plays with the Lakers is not that good. I think Stan Van Gundy and JVG's schemes are similar. They probably share playbooks. Jim Rome described Lamar Odom well. Lamar is the kind of player who could dominate in the NBA with his athleticism and skillset. I bet JVG could make Lamar Odom into a very good player. JVG and Yao don't mix.
     
  12. hotballa

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    *looks around* hmm typical overreaction by the crowd. *goes back out
     
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    ah wont we just be the LAKERS? swapping Kobe for Tmac?
     
  14. gucci888

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    But if TMac fouled Webber right away, it would have been 2 FTs. The whole point is that you foul the player on the floor.

    If you foul Webber right away, it doesn't give them any chance of tying the game. I totally understand your logic, but we gave them a chance to tie the game and they converted. If you don't give them a chance at a 3, there is almost no way of them tying the game unless they miss the 2nd FT on purpose and get a put back, which is a lot harder to do than a desperation 3 and at worst, it is still a tie game.
     
  15. franchise23

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    Yeah we would but alot older.
     
  16. rocketsbay

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    Damn! i was at the game, the first ever regular season game i go too, great game except for the ending. Kings lead all the way but the rockets managed to come back in the end so that was a positive point, i'm still not sure if T-Mac fouled on the offensive board just before webber hit that 3, anyway he should never have gotten that shot, bad defense.

    Anyway, i got pictures and tiny movies w/o sound, if you want me to post them, just ask.
     
  17. gucci888

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    Where did you hear this?
     
  18. KeepKenny

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    What hasn't really been mentioned is that there is risk in fouling as well. Webber got the shot off so quick, we would have had to foul in the first second or so of the possession before he shot the ball. Then we still gotta inbound the ball, and hit freethrows. If we miss a freethrow or turn it over, the kings have a chance to win in regulation, which also would have been disastrous. Personally, I think good solid defense is not that much riskier than fouling. The only problem was the defense wasn't good.
     
  19. franchise23

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    Well Webber had the ball for a good 2 seconds before he shot it so T-mac had a good chance to foul him but didnt. Also if the Rockets foul him then the Kings would have had to go the length of the court with less than 4 seconds to make a basket.

    A win over the Heat and everything will be all good again. Rockets need to regroup and forget about this loss.
     
  20. jjfjj

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    and the Lakers with Kobe is a better team than us right now.
     

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