ClutchFans Game Thread: Jazz @ Rockets 1/27/2008

How about trade Yao for Kobe, Execellent!

 

What? No, I dont think RA wants Mcgrady to take contested/unbalanced, horrible shots. That would be stupid. Not all of Mcgrady's shots were bad shots, so stop putting it that way. Yes, Yao was on the sideline today and i agree with you that T-mac should've stepped up game. Didn't you see how towards the end he kept puttin up shots and most of them were going in? Also, keep in mind that he is not a 100%. The dude is injured. Why can't you understand these things? That there are other factors contributing to the tonights lose than mcgrady taking ugly looks at the basket. Try winning a race with an injured knee, good luck on getting 1st, cuz you're gonna need a whole lot of it.

 

lol ... that's because their Novak was guarded by our Novak!

 

It's better lost to Portland rather then to Jazz..
oh man... we have to climb back..

 

I like the Novak at small forward look, but only do it when he can guard players like Bruce bowen, or players similar to bowen.

 

Let me put it this way. T-Mac shot 10-24, which is 41.7%

The rest of the team shot 26-58, which is 44.8%.

It indicates at least one thing: Sharing the ball will increase FG% besides bringing energy to your teammates. Holding ball will make the team unnecessary to have a PG. That is also part of the reason why Alston played better when T-Mac was not on the court.

Share the ball, T-Mac!

 

How efficient were our possessions in the fourth quarter (or the second half, for that matter) when T-Mac didn't dominate the ball, versus when he did? That might be worth looking into.

 

Right. And how many blown layups did Scrubola have? And WTF is Hayes doing on offense with the ball?

 

if you are going to blame tmac, u should blame him for the first. he did not look to penetrate ONE DAMN TIME. i was extremely frustrated with his unwillingness to penetrate.

but u cannot criticize him in the 2nd half. he played aggressive. he shared the ball. he was dominant offensively. he scored 19 pts and the team as a whole scored 54 pts.

our offense in the 4th is the same as pounding it into yao anyways, except tmac could get his shot off and he did.

we lost b/c we could not get 1-2 stops necessary when the game was tied. but like most of you, i was very frustrated of tmac in the first half.

 

i cant watch the games since austin doesnt show fsn houston. but jazz are playing well now and it was expected.

why are our ft so bad. 10 missed and lose by 8.

 

Another 4th quarter collapse by the Rockets. Why can we only play three quarters?? (In this game, we didn't even do that).

 

well said!! totally agree and wish he would do what he did when we played the spurs and WON!! why cant he play like that...hmm..the world may never know...

 

Then we have 2 slow dudes on D and imagine having to switch on pick n rolls with Novak.

Novak can't stop people from driving around him or shooting over him

 

i agree..toyota center has the WORST crowd in the NBA..period... how sad. it hurts to watch home games.

 

Whole 4th quarter:
T-Mac FG: 5-8 free throws: 0-2
Others FG: 6-10 free throws: 3/4

while T-Mac on the court in 4th quarter.
others FG: 4-6.
so basically T-Mac took more shots than the total of his all teammates in the 4th quarter while he was on the court.

I don't see any benefits of T-Mac taking more shots even when he was 5-8 from the field. Actually, the offense was not problem in this quarter, it was defense. It was 64-67 when T-Mac was check in and was 89-97 in the final. I believe T-Mac sharing the ball more will bring us more wins.

 

Correction:
whole 4th quarter:
T-Mac FG: 5-8 free throws: 0-2
Others FG: 6-10 free throws: 5/7

 

disagree about the YAO gutting out part. Respiratory infection makes you feel suffocating and tired. Actually YAO DEMANDED that he will play with the disease but the doctor and the TEAM decided not to let him.

 

Actually I do, I'd much rather take shots int he 4th q then Rafer Alston. He took hi shots, he made offence for the rest of them. I don't get all this Novak love. We lost cause we gave up a huge amount of points. Novak is part of that big problem. Mcgrady wasn't shooting particularly well against Portland, neither was Yao. You don't see people canning them back then.

 

Dude, what is your problem? T-Mac needs to share the ball because that is what Adelman wants. It's that simple.

Let's say hypothetically that the Rockets actually do play better when T-Mac hogs the ball. Let's also say that Adelman refuses to recognize this and insists on forcing T-Mac to share to the ball anyway.

Who cares? At that point T-Mac should follow his coach's game plan, or he should be benched. If Adelman's not the right coach for the Rockets he should be fired and somebody whose offensive philosophy is "Get T-Mac the ball" should be brought in. But until that point you CANNOT have one player who goes out on the floor and does whatever he feels like. That's a recipe for chaos, and disaster. In this and one other thread you seem to be saying that players should just go out and disregard the coach if that's better for the team.

Have you ever actually played any sports? Game plans are there not just for strategy, X's and O's. They're there because you have more than one person on the playing field and the players need a system to allow them to cooperate with one another. Everybody has to be on the same page. The alternative is chaos.

What that boils down to for the Rockets is that if Adelman says "Share the ball" they'd better share the ball. Anybody who doesn't is going to be benched or traded.

 

our pick and roll is the same as the yao iso. look at how we started the games without tmac -> post up yao and disregard any movement. look at how we go int the 4th quarter of games without tmac -> try to get yao the ball without disregard and forget the offense. that's not the adelman offense? when we run those yao isos, nobody moves but stand around the 3pt line.

so how do u know it's not adelman telling them to run the pick and roll? he said the offense in the 2nd half was GREAT in his post-game conference. adelman was just angry that we started the game out so poorly in the first half b/c WE DIDN'T PENETRATE like we did in the 2nd half, and that includes tmac. so adelman does not agree with you. he thought our O was great in the 2nd half. he was just peeved that the first half we weren't aggressive.

the pick and roll is fine as long as when guys catch it, the ATTACK and FINISH (scola didn't finish several layups although he attacked). if the guy that gets the ball doesn't have something, then swing the ball. that's what adelman wants -> movement of the ball. last yr, when we run the pick and roll, usually it's one pass and shoot. this yr, that hasn't been the case.