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ClutchFans Game Thread: Hornets @ Rockets 11/14/2012

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. awarde2

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    Exactly, it was some people on twitter tonight who said the same thing, They noticed how there were no screens being st for Lin also. Yep, I think it is a coaching problem.
     
  2. zdrav

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    Lin needs to get to the FT line about 3-4 times a game AT LEAST. That'll easily give him double-digit points every game, and if he knocks a few 3pt shots, then he'll be at the level expected of him by his contract.

    Lin is probably the best FT shooter on the team, yet he's never going to the line. Something's wrong with this picture.

    He took 8 FTs against the Atlanta Hawks. Not hard to see why he played well in that game.
     
  3. ZNB

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    This team is one of the youngest in the league with alot of new faces without much time playing together. Lets just give them time to grow and build chemistry. Why do ppl assume all these young guys should be at their primes? Have full team chemistry? Just remember its early in the season with alot of young guns, we are only going to get better. Give these guys some room to make mistakes to learn from without bashing them every time they stumble
     
  4. Solidz75

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    but aharden as the alpha dog, the leader of this team, it is his job to encourage his beta dog and help him out of a slump. i really don't see harden doing any of that. by ignoring lin on offense he is just leaving jlin in the dust. not sure if this is a respect thing or trust issue but it is kinda sad for me to see
     
  5. Spiegel

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    Harden wow. Great job. He was good in the 1st half of the heat game to. Asik and Morris giving us some real juice as well.
     
  6. Spiegel

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    You'r paranoid
     
  7. GoRockets!

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    You have to feel for Lin. Since the coach let Harden imitate offense, he tries to move without the ball and I noticed he is the only one that actually often moves without the ball. But even when he is open several times, no pass to him. The poor kid is really treated unfair. First, he is stripped of his natural position PG, and the coach does not run picks/set screens for him, now, he doesn't even get touch the ball that much, SMH
     
  8. Lorenzomax

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    Again : KNEE PROBLEM

    Enuough said.
     
  9. kmart9419

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    Lin took an average of 6-8 fts per game last year. He can't get free throw attempts camping at the 3 line.
     
  10. tkf

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    As a fan of lin,I would tend to agree with you here.. would like to see lin run more pick and roll.. but other than that, the problem with lin is his handle.. if he is not running pick and roll his handle hinders him from getting where he wants to be on the floor.. this can be fixed, but not over night of course....

    Lin should be running more pick and rolls and harden should be spotting up a bit more instead of hoisting threes off the dribble....

    both he and harden can and probably will form a dynamic backcourt, but lin is going to have to adjust a bit and the coaching staff is going to have to let him run more pick and roll sets.
     
  11. GoRockets!

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    initiate, fixed .
     
  12. Lucky Charm

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    LOL at you acting like you are actually somebody on here. You must be one meaningless little dude to get on such a high internet horse. :p
    Lin IS part of the Rockets the last time I checked so you can take your little backseat moderating rant that no one cares about and sew it on a pillow or something.
    If you want me to wear an asshat and celebrate like a moron how amazing the team looks, Im sorry Im not doing it.

    I am complaining about his lack of use as a PG. I've also said multiple times this will affect BOTH James AND Lin. The team is becoming too dependent on James. James is prone to stupid ISOS because they aren't using Lin as a PG to orchestrate the plays...if there even are any.
    Do you understand now stefanb? or should I simplify and clarify my answer even further so a bag of rocks can understand it?
     
  13. tkf

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    that may be a part of it, but also lin just has to improve his handle.. that is key..

    until then, run him in a lot of pick and roll sets, he is great doing that... and asik would also get more touches..

    win-win for houston..
     
  14. Solidz75

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    he is taking only 10 shots shooting 20-30%. he is becoming an offensive liability and teams will just start playing off him.

    Imagine if Jeremy could gain that shooting touch back - and draw up double team with his penestration. That would open up harden and this backcourt would be unstoppable.

    I think Lin's current offense woe will be one the biggest obstacles we are going to face this year. I thought everyone did well tonight on the offensive end except for lin. This was his worst OFFENSIVE game thus far.
     
  15. Hail to the V

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    My take on that is the refs this year are calling fewer fouls across the league. It's not like Lin hasn't tried but he certainly had a fair share of non-calls. He could be more aggressive but there's a risk of re-injury and maybe there's a conscious decision by coaches and him to avoid that until he's deeper into the season.

    Just speculation though.
     
  16. Lorenzomax

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    Why can't ppl understand that LIN is not in 100% form on the offensive end? He dropped 10 lbs due to the Knee Issues and an Asian with 202 lbs is almost as weak as a black 6'3" with 185 lbs...And also he had the mental issues w/ his knee also. So, please, let's be patient.
     
  17. Solidz75

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    This was the issue in NY as well. The refs stopped giving lin foul shots for whatever reason. This effectively limited his game. He is just not getting calls. Could this be the reason why he is not driving as much any more?
     
  18. torocan

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    While the fans and media worship scorers, I don't think Lin really cares all that much about it. He's about getting Wins for the team, maximizing the potential of his team mates and developing himself as a basketball player.

    Lin is thinking long term. He knows that if he does the right things, his shot will work itself out, the team chemistry will improve, and the players around him will continue to improve. He also knows that the media and fans can be fickle, IE, they'll be running back when it does sort iself out.

    He also has the advantage of having a 3 year contract, so he knows he has the time to keep improving. He may not be a "bargain" today at $8M, but he's earning his contract in terms of in-game impact.

    Morey is enough of a stat hound that barring a trade, he'll recognize what's there and let Lin develop. And there's more than enough coaches in the league that can recognize his improvements without looking purely at the box score that there will be teams that will want him.

    Let's also not forget that the Offense and Defense are still being developed for the team. Game by game we're seeing improvements and additions in terms of sets. Many of them are very rough, a few are becoming passable (like the sets to Asik), and I wouldn't be shocked if there's lots more still in the works especially as far as picks and screens.

    The Rockets are a work in progress. A 23 year old, .500 work in progress.

    Really, that the Rockets even have a shot at a playoff seed with 13 new players and an average age of 23 is remarkable.

    And the good thing is it should only get better. Even if McHale doesn't fully utilize ALL the strengths of the players, just the refinement of the playsets and the chemistry that will come between the players, combined with the significant upside of the roster due to their youth means that we *should* be looking at continued improvement for this entire year, and probably for the next 2 years.

    That's a really scary thing to think about...
     
  19. Lucky Charm

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    Exactly, they need to give him the green light more. I highly doubt James would refuse to do so. He doesnt seem like that type of guy that things to be done his way like Carmelo.
    This is all on the coaching staff. I just wonder how long it'll take them to realize it.
     
  20. Lorenzomax

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    If Lin can't even finish around the rims like what he did in NY? No way Asik can get a better chance to score with Lin than Harden I guess, although Lin is a better passer.
     

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