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ClutchFans Game Thread: Clippers @ Rockets 1/15/2013

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 13, 2013.

  1. cfansnet

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    Hi Knicks fan!
     
  2. demarco1

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    simple we win when Our BACK Court step up and play great, but when they don't, we cannot even rely on front court (asik and morris or p.pat) so, from this point, we are weak at C and PF.... ok we got G.Smith, but He just a good inside the paint scorer . but still not too tall enough. if we can get G Smith power with the Asik Rebounding power in 1 person, also get a new powerful Power Forward then. we talk about WIn WIn Win..
     
  3. Luca

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    I agree. TD is a better shooter than Lin and I am just scratching my head to why TD is runnning the point when either Lin Or Harden are on the floor. If anything, Delfino is better at running the point that Toney imo.
     
  4. knickstorm

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    errr that's about when Lin started rolling and the Rockets started winning.
     
  5. cyclorider

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    TD would be lethal from distance if the Rockets were a big low post team that needed a shooter to kick it out to.

    Right now, he's shooting 40% from 3-point, but he'd be shooting 45% if he had a serious low post player drawing attention inside.
     
  6. torocan

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    You do realize that every play off a pick is a guess, right?

    What if he didn't go for the 3 and Lin didn't move aggressively to cut off the drive? Would you be criticizing him for that too?

    Did you know that last season that Lin scored just as much going AWAY from the pick instead of turning the corner on the pick?

    There is no "right" way to play a pick individually. The PnR ball handler has all the choice in the world whether to turn the corner on the pick, go away from the pick, or to dribble and shoot. All of which can result in a score.

    The only way you can play the pick perfectly is if a 2nd player moves up to hedge the pick, then you can focus on one side and not be forced to guess. It's why the PnR is one of the bread and butter plays in the NBA... so much so that many commentators call the NBA a pick and roll league now.

    Something to think about...
     
  7. YYYY1313

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    You sir are extremely informative. Thank you for posting.
     
  8. lfw

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    I agree but I have to say the one thing TD does better than all of the players you mentioned is turning the ball over less.
     
  9. Rip Van Rocket

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    Right buddy, just trying to steer you in the right direction. You've been here for ten days and don't seem to like Rockets fans. It wasn't a joke, I really think you would be much happier over there.
     
  10. parksn306

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    Blazers lost, so the evening wasn't a total disaster. Denver is finally starting to click. I don't see us catching the 1 through 6 seeds. As long as we stay ahead of Portland, Utah etc. I think we're good. Making the playoffs in a rebuilding year, in the stacked West, is a result I don't think anyone here could have hoped for, pre-season.

    Go Rockets!
     
  11. muas2010

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    LOL...you could say the same thing about going with Lin, TD and Beverley and triple that savings. Yes....Lin's done that before with the Knicks...but this discussion is pointless.
     
  12. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Lin didn't watch the ball. The guard didn't even see the pick before Lin did. The guard just saw Lin running into a pick and was like, "ok, guess I'll shoot. Mistakes happen. Nothing wrong with admitting a player makes them.
     
  13. Luca

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    Man, our team defence is pretty bad. I just hope they step up their game tomorrow.
     
  14. Kwame

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    The Clippers just won their 30th game tonight. Again, the Rockets were favored to win by 3.5 points.

    But you said that Lin got a hand in Crawford's face. It was more like he just lifted his hand in the air since he was playing off of him and didn't elevate to contest. By the time his hand got anywhere near his face (if it did at all), it was too late to impact the jumper. Crawford did cross him up pretty badly too.

    Also, despite Lin playing off of him, Crawford drove it in and Lin did nothing but just watch him elevate and sink a short jumper. I'm sure that was somebody else's fault too.

    Lol @ elevating to contest being "highly ill advised" when you have 3 fouls. It was the 4th qtr when Crawford started lighting Lin up. Just another excuse by LOFs. You just tacitly admitted that Lin didn't play good defense on Crawford.
     
  15. javajam

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    People lose their credibility when they exaggerate to try to make a point.
     
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    I keep hearing this line of argument and it is flawed. Nash is a very, very, very rare case. Out of the literally thousands of NBA players, there have only been a handful that improved as much as Nash did. Also, Lin does not have the handle, court vision or shooting ability Nash did. Honestly they are not similar at all. Lin is bigger and stronger.

    Concerning Lin... He is 24 years old, played 4 years in college and is in his third season in the NBA. He has played over 100 games. If anything his production has regressed from last season. He certainly can improve, but he isn't a rookie like some posters say, nor is he likely to make a dramatic improvement like Nash, that is very rare.

    The Rockets can win with Lin as their starting point guard if they make substantial upgrades at the 4 and 5. Ideally I see Lin playing a role similar to Danny Ainge in Boston.
     
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    Why the eff are we arguing about LIN's defense on Crawford when the whole effing team got lit up by him?? Lin's been consistently decent on D (at least he tries on D, unlike some people) this whole season. Like someone else mentioned, haters can't criticize his scoring or facilitating so they just have to hate on something else.
     
  18. split41

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    Wow, I can't believe the Lin bashing going on in here. Sure Bledsoe outplayed him, but not by much. The dude recorded a double-double and was one of our best players today next to Parsons and people are still blaming him? There are plenty of other players to point the finger at, but this was a team loss. Our team D sucks - I don't understand all the unwarranted focus on Lin.

    Dumb.

    Everyone got lit up, come on guy. He had a hand in his face on most plays.

    So dumb.

    I'm not a LOFer, but some of you guys need to get some perspective.
     
  19. demarco1

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    Bring Tyson Chandler to Our C. and Demarcus Cousins at PF, now we win
     
  20. el gnomo

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    I remember that play and brought it up earlier in this thread when it happened... he definitely lost track of the shot clock in that situation, as it was near the end and there was absolutely no reason to leave Bledsoe so open when his only option was to launch a 3 (not enough time to even use the screen). That was a bad defensive mistake.

    However, I don't realy find too much fault in the 3 or 4 in a row that Crawford hit in the 4th. Those were all hero-ball shots that would've went in even if LeBron was guarding him.
     

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