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ClutchFans Game Thread: Celtics @ Rockets 3/18/2005

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Mar 17, 2005.

  1. dabien1

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    It's true it's only one game. But it's just frustrating to lose to a team we SHOULD beat.

    The Celts might be for real but I can never stomach a loss to a lesser team....I don't care HOW GOOD THE CELTS have become.


    The Rockets from an UNBIASED and OBJECTIVE POINT OF VIEW are still the better team.

    Just a bad night...agreed???
     
  2. ikfit

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    I am a YOF, I hope and wish all YOF to pay attention to our attitude, Just one lose and it is an unlucky lose so please do not blame yao's teammates they do try very hard and most shots are open and will fall in they belive. So as fans and love our team, please give encourage to them and let them know we are always behind them.

    Go rox, Good experience at least. If we can figure out how to do in such situation it worth.

    Be positive please.
     
  3. bigballerj

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    I disagree, it's a big problem. Yao needs to be utilized ALOT more in the 1st quarter. That's the main reason why the Rox are getting off to slow starts. He could've easily fouled out the Celtic's big men in that went with that strategy.
     
  4. lhphpl

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    Totally agree. We are a better team than celtics. Period.
     
  5. real_egal

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    You got to be kidding, right? Early fouls on opposing team can put their players in foul trouble, and their team near penalty. How is that hurt us?
     
  6. daoshi

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    Yao had 12 FTA, which equals 6 shots, that gives him a total of 13 attempts. Yes, we should have gone to him more, but let's at least get the fact straight here.

    It's just one game, guys carried away with their happy-triggering due to the hot shooting in the previous games. They will realize that to win consistently in this league, especially in playoff, you have to go inside first & frequently.
     
  7. lhphpl

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    If they started to feed Yao the ball from the very begining. Most possibly we won't be in such embarrasing situation after the 2nd quarter. But the problem is, you never know the shots of our guards are not falling tonight. We won 6 stright games using the guard's hot hands. And if we only fed Yao the ball in those 6 games, I am not sure we could win all of them.

    So donot blame to hard on the passing. This is just simply an off night. And the team will learn from this night that how to better balance the inside and outside offensive problem.
     
  8. fa7999

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    Gee, KU is down. This will be their first 1st round exit in god knows how many years.
     
  9. poonie

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    The team started to feed yao the rock in the 2nd half. Our offense is coming back and the celtics are going from smoking hot back to average. The timing is perfect for a come back. Then as we all know Yao in foul trouble. I have to blame JVG on this. JVG usually let Yao stay in the paint and DO NOT help the P&R in the 4th quarter. But he had to make a change today; he should have let yao stay in the paint for as long as possible and away from chasing the opponent's guard in the Q3. The celtics were doing a good job driving to the rim and finding the open Blount. Well, if Blount can make a consecutive 10 open shots from the floor, let it be; at least we can have Yao in the game for the whole Q3 and probably started the Q4 with a closer game.
     
  10. bigballerj

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    I'm not saying that Yao should take all the shots. That's going from one extreme to the other. I'm just saying he needs alot more touches to make the offense more efficient on a consistent night-in, night out basis.

    Bottom line: The Rox bailed the Celtics tonight with their shot selection coupled with poor defense. Not the end of the world but it was dissappointing to watch.
     
  11. jclee

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    Mike James is a great pg...oh, what's his stats for the game? and how about Tmac? I'm sure many of you r****ds think Yao should get the blame for the crappy shooting night. I'm not a YOF, but he should leave the rockets after next season and go to a team that can use him in the right way!
     
  12. ikfit

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    Are you a Rox fan
     
  13. lhphpl

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    What are you talking about? Anyone single one here is blaming Yao? Please single it out. Otherwise, please shut up.

    James's stat is not great for this game does not mean he is not a good guard. He has been playing solid for all recent games except this one. And for your information, he IS a good SG rather than a PG.
     
  14. bigballerj

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    KU just got eliminated. Biggest upset in the tourney so far.
     
  15. poonie

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    poor kid, sorry for that , folks.
    I forgot to give him his daily pills today.
     
  16. real_egal

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    Don't just assume what Yao should or should not do. He's a mature young man, who knows what's best for him, who knows what he wants, where he stays. I am sure, in his plan, your wish would never be considered. Nor is mine, that's why I save the energy to plan for him. You should do too.
     
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    i understand your logic, however, 4 of those free throws were the result of 2 fouls that were not in the act of shooting. on one, yao was pushed in the back by raef. on another, yao was set up in the lane and the entry pass was off center, walker reached around to get it but clipped yao on the arm.

    so, that would be 4 shots.

    anyways, still nit picking. whether its 7 fga and 6 psuedo shots. its still not enough when the guy is shooting at the highest clip on the floor against a team that had walker and jefferson guarding him for long stretches during the game.
     
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    I will give you a break this time, but make sure it never happens again. It's embarrassing.
     
  19. ToothYanker

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    Let's get something straight. Yao Ming is a nice, gentle, warm hearted guy who doesn't want to hurt people's feelings. Check. Yao Ming can be a monster offensively if given enough touches. Check.

    Now given the fact that we've known these things for 3 years, why must Yao have to strangle someone to get the ball? I mean, the guy's shooting 55% on the season yet isn't even in the NBA's top 50 in field goal attempts per game. Yes, I'll be labeled a YOF again, etc. but tonight showed that when your perimeter shooting cools down (as it always does) and you continually refuse to feed your big man, you pay for it. Against the blazers, our phenomenal shooting masked that fault in our offense but tonight it showed and we paid for it. Yao shouldn't have to strangle peopel or yell at them to get the ball. If you want to win, then he should get it. All other talk of championships and what not are meaningless until that happens. And Yao won't demand the ball cuz that's not in his nature and we've known this for 3 years. So either the rockets players themselves or JVG have to make it a point to get Yao the ball more or come playoff time, what happened tonight will no longer be regarded as an anomaly.
     
  20. ToothYanker

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    On an interesting side note, Zydrunas Ilgauskas shot less than 25% from the floor tonight but still had 19 field goal attempts. Kinda makes you wonder what Big Z does to be more respected by his teammates for them to go to him so often. The Rockets would be a much better team if Yao had that kinda respect.
     

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