ClutchFans Game Thread: Cavaliers @ Rockets 1/15/2016

Harden is really good but he doesn't give 100% every time he's on the court. And the team overall is just not that smart.

Rockets may fool people with their however many wins in a row, but this year was supposed to bring a serious championship push.

This squad has 0 chance of doing that. The harden, coaching, chemistry, role player issues will have to be figured out....hopefully by next season because this season is a fail.

 

Cause we expect him to play PF for 10minutes, then center for another 5 after Dwight is takin out

Last night I could definitely see JB pushing Capella to his limits starting at PF then playing back up center simultaneously throughout the game. Where is Dmo?

 

this team's #1 problem to be solved is james harden, aka the leadership from the players, in the locker room.
the #1 issue aint brewer, or tjones, or lawson, or morey, or jbb, or anyone else.

now repeat this notion 100 times and let it sink in.

after it has sunk in, only then, we can talk about other issues like coaching, set of plays, or any individual players.

 

Stop posting trash. A contender is a team that has a realistic chance of winning the championship. We are just making up the numbers.

Anyone quoting this guy; he is pretty much the biggest Houston homer going around so logic and sense is rather absent in his posts.

 

This team is disgusting.

 

This team is like a really hot girl in High School.... You go away to college and during Summer break you see her again and she has track marks, missing teeth and is strung out on heroin.... Just revolting.

Her boyfriend (JB)tells you she is getting better, that she stopped hooking and there will be a happy ending.... But you know better than that.... The boyfriend (JB) is eventually going to be tossed aside for a pimp and she is going to be homeless and dead by 30.

That is this Rockets team.... Excuses, excuses, excuses...

 

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterocke...aways-from-the-rockets-loss-to-the-cavaliers/

 

LOL harden was 2-10? so done with this season

 

What I thought, the smarter teams have figured out how to shut down Harden and the whole offense through him

matter of time other teams apply that

 

I wonder what our guys had go say sfter the game

 

Funny how nobody in the Houston media or from the team calls the coaches out on their inability to even implement a simple offensive system. It's all Harden, give him the ball and go. He will keep standing still off the ball, throwing those horrendous passes and not play defense since nobody on the team really cares about winning. I've not seen a single player get into Harden's face. That is a problem. I want to see players who get the ball with 3 seconds left pass it back really hard, even hurl it at his face if they have to. Just to send him a message, like **** YOU and your stats. I want to see guys shouting at him when he doesn't get back on defense and get into his face. I want a coach who just pat him on his ass, but grabs him by the neck and throws him into the chair if they have to get the message across.

 

Everyone is afraid to call him out. As if they're afraid he'll revolt, quit, or leave them in 2 years.

J.B. was probably talking about Harden in that postgame rant but didn't call him out.

Calvin was probably talking about Harden last night but instead said "everyone".

We've already heard privately & through anonymous sources teammates were/are tired of Harden.

Either coaches & teammates have said/done nothing, which would be a problem or they've spoken up, went through one Harden ear and out the other, which would also be a problem. Of course saying & doing are two different things. Not backing up your words with your actions, well...

 

Which is why Hollins was on my list, think he's a good coach and would not mind him still. He tries to instill a mentality into a team.

You know the thing is, I don't think our coaches are dumb. I don't think they don't know their X's-Os'...I think they just handle the players badly. The team has no mentality, no identity, they have no will to force upon other teams, no style of play this year.

 

I disagree with the "everything starts with Harden" being our main problem. He played awful yesterday thats true. But you mean to tell me that's all we got? You think if Steph Curry or Lebron have bad games they always lose? No. Hell GSW beat us without Curry so that should be no excuse for us. We need a new coaching staff, less one dimensional players and a different philosophy other than Harden ISO and three point shots. We have no real offensive system. Morey has created a team that goes as one player goes and that's never a good idea.

If Harden is struggling then someone else needs to step up. The reason why I defend Harden when it comes to blaming him for everything is because before this season I was saying that we depend on Harden way too much and needed a new coach that can do other things rather than develop Harden's one on one game. Now those people who were upset with me because I wanted a new coach are now mad at Harden for the reasons I wanted a new coach. James Harden is not Michael Jordan and even if he played like last year everyone else is playing like crap too so it really wouldn't matter we'd win a couple more games but most teams who were smart could just swarm Harden and foul Dwight every time he gets the ball. If you look at Cleveland they have players who can get their own shots so everyone is praising Lebron when really he just has better personnel. So if you swarm Lebron, Kyrie Irving is open or Kevin Love or JR Smith all of whom can get their own shots and don't depend on Lebron to create it for them.

 

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teams like gsw and cle can still beat their opponents while curry or lebron is down because they dont have a leadership problem like we do. you can say the same to the spurs as well.

because their leaders plays hard, they can hold all players accountable. so when the #1 guy goes down or isnt playing or isnt playing well, that team as a whole can still function well.

that's not the case w/ this rockets team.

 

HAHAHAHA :grin:

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Here is the thing though...

Great teams have more than one leader. People are blaming a team problem on Harden. Like if someone misses a shot, that's NOT because of poor leadership.

If Curry doesn't play well what happens? Who steps up? It's Draymond isn't it? He's the heart of that team, he's the one that goes back to the huddle and tells everyone "We're going to win this game." they also have a coach they believe in. The end result is that they all play for each other.

Look, when Dwight goes searching for another contract he can't blame his problems on Harden. He can't say "Well, Harden was the leader for our team so that explains my play."

These guys are NBA players, a big reason we went on that 5 game winning streak had to do with everyone playing better. Getting something out of the bench, etc. Did they need Harden's leadership then?

I'm fine with saying Harden played terribly...but then don't say Jones for instance played badly BECAUSE of Harden's "Leadership".

 

Look at this ****...

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http://hoopshype.com/2016/01/16/dwight-howard-couldnt-believe-james-harden-didnt-pass-him-the-ball/

 

I see why Harden didn't pass it. It looked like Smith was going down to double Dwight. If Harden passes it, it's likely a turnover.