It's NBA, everyone can dunk. But to be shown on sportcenter, Dunk on Yao looks attactive to everyonein different ways!
I do agree with most of what you said regarding Sura...but his one-on-one doesn't come at the expense of the TOs. That's what I like. If Francis had 21/6/6 with only 2.8 TO per game. I believe he'd still be on this team. I just don't think you understand the effect TOs have on a team. Yes, I realize SF's extra points make a difference (21ppg). And that is better than Sura's 10ppg. Just pointing out Sura's ast/to ratio isn't meant to compete with the 21ppg that Francis. ...The issue is how much benefit do we get from a ROLE PLAYER (not getting MAX) that doesn't turn the ball over very much considering his 35 minutes played, then comparing that to Francis. That's what Nick and I are talking about. That's the limited leadership we bring up. Yes, Sura's physical ability is similar to Francis. Yes, his driving ability is similar to Francis. Yes his fiery attitude his similar to Francis (hence your Francis-lite comparison; techs). But those are good things about Francis. EXCEPT when they get out of control. Like TURNOVERS or TECHNICALS! And if Sura shows signs of turning the ball over more, getting more technical and driving to the basket into 3 defenders, again turning the ball over...well, then he'll be taking on more of Francis's bad characteristics. Then he'll get bashed here! I don't see that happening with Sura. So, that's why we say that many of the comparisons SF don't have a negative effect on Sura because he's doing the *good* things that Francis does. Not the baggage or the *bad things*. Not yet anyways. The comparison can only go so far.
I hate the Yao and Bradley comparisons. Yao has had more good games in the past 3 weeks than Bradley has had in his entire career. Yao in only his third year is better than Bradley at any point in his career. By the way, someone remind Sportscenter that Yao unlike Bradley is a 3 time All-Star.
I am not a big fan of Francis and do appreciate what Sura has done for Rox, but I think what you said is far from the truth.
I said, similar. Not THE SAME. In fact, it was not I that used the Francis-lite comparison in the first place. It was Francis 4 Prez that did. Besides. His comparison seemed to lean more towards the negative side (techs and driblles the ball a lot), rather than the positive comparisons that I used (fire, low turnovers, defense and good athletic ability).
That's if your only mesurement is points (although, a weak comparison). But even then...Sura CAN contribute! Bradley? I think you need to look again at Bradley.... http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/1273/gamelog Check this out... Sura: 35 min per game, 10ppg, 5.1 apg, 2.5 topg, 5.9rpg, 1.3 spg... Bradley: 9 min per game, 2.3ppg, 0.7 bpg, 0.4topg, 0.2spg... I don't think that Sura's numbers and contributions are ^THAT^ far away from Francis 21/7/6/4.0 compared to Bradley. You make it seem like Yao is getting 28/15! If you want to compare Sura to a center, at least make it closer to Raef LaFrentz or Chris Mihm. Not Bradley!
I think mainly because yao worry about his foul. So he just stand there and try to not get a foul. what he can do. He want to stay in the game and f u c ref treat him like a rooki. poor guy.
what I saw tonight in the game was Yao and Mcgrady taking it easy and letting the bench have fun, you can see te confidence in the team now.... Mcgrady and Yao scored their points but they barely broke a sweat doing itl.
It's strange because the national media seems to be like 10 games behind what is going on. We sucked at first, made the trades, and started playing really good ball. After a couple weeks of that, people are saying we're one of the most disappointing teams. Same thing with Yao. He started off slow, then he picked it up during our win streaks, and now everyone is coming out of the woodwork saying how disappointing he is. Get on the ball, you hacks. You had your chance to hate when we were 6-11.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/10860415.htm Rockets waltz past Bulls, who never get in rhythm BY K.C. JOHNSON Chicago Tribune HOUSTON - (KRT) - Any NBA team will tell you it's tough to dance the Texas two-step, and the Chicago Bulls certainly tripped over themselves Wednesday night at the Toyota Center. Back-to-back games in Dallas and Houston proved too much as the Rockets waltzed to a 105-92 victory with the ease of Fred Astaire. Houston has won five straight. The Bulls, who trailed by double digits for most of the game, looked like the guy thrashing on the dance floor with no rhythm, taking bad shots, fumbling passes and blowing assignments. "For some reason, we couldn't get into the right sets, offensively and defensively," Tyson Chandler said. "We had a game plan, and for some reason, we kept having breakdowns." All five Houston starters reached double figures, topped by Tracy McGrady's 24 points and nine assists. Yao Ming added 21 points and 10 rebounds. Three stretches in particular hurt the Bulls, who shot 36.8 percent and dropped back to .500. In a nod to their offensive ineptitude, coach Scott Skiles stacked the floor with shooters, riding a lineup of Jannero Pargo, Eric Piatkowski, Andres Nocioni, Chandler and either Kirk Hinrich or Ben Gordon for stretches in the third and fourth quarters. The Bulls pulled within 86-77 on Gordon's driving, left-handed layup with 7 minutes 48 seconds left. But Houston responded by ripping off an 11-0 run, capped by a Yao dunk on a feed from McGrady. Earlier, Houston opened the second quarter with a 15-0 run as the Bulls missed 12 straight shots and committed four turnovers. Piatkowski's three-pointer at the 5:50 mark was the Bulls' first points of the quarter. They came out almost as cold in the third quarter, surrendering an 8-0 run thanks to three missed shots and three turnovers. Chris Duhon's three-pointer 3:49 into the quarter were their first points. "We had trouble passing the ball and catching the ball," Skiles said. "We could tell right from the beginning that we were a half-step slow. We hung pretty tough. We just went through a couple long stretches where we couldn't find the basket." Yao didn't have that problem, shooting 9-for-10. "I was happy they stopped throwing him the ball," Skiles said. "He could've had 40 against us. Yao took it down there and scored whenever he wanted to." Skiles called Houston "the better team." Hinrich's 16 points led the Bulls. Chandler, in a huge effort, had 12 points, 20 rebounds and three blocks. Eddy Curry sat for the final 16:11. The Bulls haven't posted back-to-back victories against Western Conference teams since downing Portland and Golden State on successive nights ending Jan. 30, 1998. They've beaten both Dallas and Houston on the road in the same season just once in 39 years as a franchise_during the 1995-96 season. They are now 5-5 in the second game of back-to-backs but refused to blame a tough travel experience from Dallas Tuesday night. "That's the NBA," Chandler said. "You go through problems like that. We were in the game. Guys had energy. We just didn't have that extra thrust to win."
hmm so skiles admit that his defense didn't stop our team throwing the ball down low to yao. So who did???? o well i was happy with the win......
"I was happy they stopped throwing him the ball," Skiles said. "He could've had 40 against us. Yao took it down there and scored whenever he wanted to." Is that convincing? I trust my eyes but someone of you doesn't. Or maybe I'm wrong, it's all Yao's problem.
