ClutchFans Game Thread: Blazers @ Rockets 3/16/2005

Right, I understand. I understand you say you would like Yao to be on the court is becuase you want him to contribute more to the teams success but not because you are a YOF. But why cann't you understand some other fans want Yao to have more touches also with a purpose of team success but not a YOF?

 

ha, so funny. Flimsy ground? OMG who had this filmsy ground? Would you kindly look at those posts I made in the golden state thread, which I just copied here in a above post? Would you change you mind then I am a phony YOF but acturally a TOF and YOH?

Please, sticking to you narrow judgement without any arguement is not a good thing.

 

What happen here?

Yao's D improve a lot!!!!! That's what I like, his D is so gooooood right now, I just love it!
I think he need demand the ball himself, not by our fans

 

You do understand that we are talking about last nights game. You do understand that they wanted Yao to have more touches when the team was playing flawlessy and taking and making wide open shots from the perimeter? so do you understand that I understand that that line of thinking comes from a mind that has a greater emotional investment in Yao than it does in the Houston Rockets?

 

WHy can't we all be happy? Whe have won 6 in a row.

Go Rockets!

So awesome the rest of the team blew out the Blazers with Yao and TMAC spending most of the game on the bench.

Rockets rule.

 

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now thats what i'm talking about right there. say it loud.

 

Yes. I understand. I surely do not like those "XXX only fans" no matter whose fan they are. But do you understand you made a mistake by assuming all fans talking about Yao's touches in a rockets winning game are default YOF? Do you understand you made a mistake by mainly responsbile for initiating this stupid debate which totally ruined a happy atmosphere after a blowout win? Do you understand you made a mistake by your judgement on me as a YOF, a selfish fan who should go away? If not, please see my posts in the golden-state thread I just posted here.

 

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You do know that it was you who made a response to me first?

When I said YOF, why did you think i was talking to you?

think about that.



and "ruining an atmosphere"

now we're back on the same shoreline.

thats exactly my whole reason for first responding the way I did.

the timing of that Yao Ming b****fest was at an all time worst. Things could not be going better for our team. Consideration. Have consideration for that and apperciate what the team is doing and don't dump on them. Don't do that, at the wrong time, and there won't be a problem.

 

Someone said Yao should get more touches, I said I agree and I said to have yao take more shots will be helpful for our later fights with a decent team such as spurs or heat. So you consider me as a YOF due to this talk?

I responed to your first post because I simply do not like your way of being a crazy YOF labeler coder all over this forum. Anyone showing objection to your opinion are automatically YOF? There could not exist one kind of non-YOF who disagree with you in this forum?


You still maintain your narrow judgement. You think you are a representative of a force of anti-YOF, and set up a rule in your own system who is YOF and begin to throw harsh and insulting comments once your make your judgement. And your standard is, as you already mentioned severa times, a true rockets fan(non-YOF) definitely should not talk anything about yao's touch in a rockets flawless winning night. If someone dares to ever talk or happen to agree with some other's opinion on this matter, then unfortunately he is a 100% YOF.

How stupid?

 

We could end this whole thing right here and now if you would answer the question " do you have a greater emotional investment in Yao than you do in the Houston Rockets?"

but you tell me "no you want whats best for Yao and the team and that you want Yao to get more shots for the betterment of the team" on a night when the Rockets won by 30 and built that lead from a flawless performance from our perimiter players taking what the defense gave them.

but there again, I say you are not being honest with me because you can't have that perfect balance all the time. With you and Yao ming first fans I see that Yao Ming is on the left scale. The team is on the right scale. There is already a divisive mindset that is born there so the way you view the Rockets, its in a divisive attitude though you say things like 'whats better for the team'. You want the team to win but you want the scale to be perfectly balanced in every game, irregardless of game flow, because you have this love for Yao that has him as a seperate identity away from the team. you want the scale to be perfectly balanced everygame because you want whats better for the team and it has nothing to do with you having a greater emotional investment in Yao? Thats what you want me to believe, but I know it not to be the truth. I'm not buying it man. I'm not hearing that from you and the others who say that. I call bullsh!t on that.

You could say "yeah stoke, I do have do have a little bit more of an emotional investment in Yao, and that is where this whole conflict between us arises in the first place' and with that one confession, that honest sentiment, you could change the future of every Yao Ming first fan on here because that honest confession would lead the way for many more and the masquerading as 'first and foremost houston rocket fans' while in the same breath gripe about Yao Ming not getting enough shots would come to a halt.

 

Stop it, you two!

 

LOL!

 

Ok, let me answer your question first: I do not have a GREATER emitonal investment in Yao than I do in rockets." And I stated CLEARLY in my first post against you last night. You do not know how to read it?

For your second paragraph, I clearly said I want yao get more shots becuase I think that's good for our future fight with spurs or heat. Did I say anything I do not like the blowout yesterday with a hot wesley and sura? I am the FIRST one in this thread to cheer for wesley's terrific performance last night. I do not have the right to talk about yao's touch to discuss a further long winning streak especially against decent teams I would more like to see?

For your third paragraph, you said I am not honest becuase I can not have balance all the time. This is really funny. This just demonstrated I am not a YOF but a rocket fan. I only put up with idea good for the team. Just I mentioned in my previous golden-state post, when somebody blamed Tmac, I jumped out to say I like him to make those shots even bricks. And I clearly told that guy YM ever had a 2/9 shooting and every one may have up-and down shooting night, no matter Tmac or Yao. T-mac's 9/29 doesnot necessrily warrant every ball should go to Yao. Did you see this? You said I want the scale to be perfectly balanced in EVERYGAME, where the HELL did you get this impression. Last night is the first time I post on the Yao-touch thing.

I have not been here for long time, just one month. I have around 150 posts. This is the first time I involved in the Yao-touch thread. Before yesterday, I never knew there was this kind of debate long time ago in the forum nor do I care. Could you find a single post of mine since my joining this forum demanding the ball for Yao except last night? I even did not initiate the topic but just showed my agreement on other's opinion.

For your last paragraph, why should I say what YOU want me to say or what YOU think I should say? Why should I need you to give me a statement which YOU think is honest? I always made it very clear either from my words or from the evidence I put up with in the golden-state match. And I first responded your post because I plainly donot like your arrogant way of YOF lableler codor ALL OVER this forum, not only in this thread. It is so hard for you to understand there are some no-YOFs who do not like your crazy labeling and insulting comments? I already made it clear many times in my previous post, so hard for you to understand this? You asked me to honestly say this and say that, why couldn't your honestly admit you made some stupid mistake by YOF-labeling all the world?

 

The picture is funny. But from which word of mine did you see I am not happy with the win? Anyone has a suggestion for our long-run winning goal is deemd YOF-like, when unfortunately, the agreement is about Yao's touch?

 

"Does that make me a bad person?"...

... that's really a deep question.

 

Relax, I was in a rush to get something funny out. Don't take me serious here.

I think it's possible Texas Stoke might be overreacting a bit, because I see that you have supported other Rockets in the past, and yes there is nothing wrong in wondering why Yao would get few touches.

I have no idea if you are a YOF or not. But you seem to me a victim of the pent-up frustration that real YOF's have caused. This a Rockets fan-site first and foremost, and any support of Yao which could be interpreted as coming at the expense of the team is kind of a sensitive spot. We love having Yao's personality, character and talent on the team, but the Rockets come first.

Anyway, I'm not getting dragged into this any further. I've done my damage here, so carry on!

 

and there you have it. just one month. thats just enough time to fall into their trap. the YOF trap. they have your sympathy and support and you share an opinion with them and then theres no hope. then you say things like 'hey stoke, why ruin a good atmosphere' when that atmosphere was steering in the direction of a Yao Ming b**** fest while taking subtle jabs at the team. did you do that, no. but you agreed with them, and when i voice displeasure, you jumped to their defense. YOF's how could that be? They are not that. They are honest houston Rocket fans who are just saying 'Mcgreedy' and 'our the team has made Yao into a role player' and 'they are relying on the perimiter game and not setting themselves up for future success even though they are taking and making unforeced shots from the perimeter'. oh these guys aren't YOF's you say. calling out these guys as yof's, how insulting! tough ****, they get what they deserve, and if you don't want me lumping you into their party don't jump to their defense as the defender of their right to be the kind of fans you think they're not.

 

this discussion has dwindled down to you and me and less and less about the Houston Rockets and anytime that happens we are doing a great disservice to the board. so i will say no more.

 

Agreed, the McGreedy reference is totally uncalled for under any circumstances... as well as grossly inaccurate given his assist totals. That should be a term reserved only for use by spiteful Orlando Sentinel bootlicking toadies of the Weisbrod regime.