ClutchFans Game Thread: Blazers @ Rockets 3/16/2005

YOF's cause bladder problems.

 

Texas Stoke, type all the dirty words you learned from your Mom here, and pissing...on Texas Stoke, good job. So long, good night.

 

Im glad no one is giving us credit...that way when we start tearing up on people in the playoffs they will all ride our nuts and then we can tell them to STFU.

These analysts change there picks more than anyone out there...if someone blows a little wind in their direction they will change their opinion.

Honestly i don't care what they say and they can continue to try and become bandwagoners all they want but i don't care what they have to say.

This way we have no kind of pressure and we can show the nation what we can do.

 

beating miami......i really hope we can do that...if we did that on tue , i think we truely are a contender for championship.

 

Why are you on Texas Strokes case? Are you like 2 years old or something?

 

I second that Texas Stoke

The complaining about Yao's personal stats and performance is truly rediculous

Yao does NOT need to get touches/his points to win the game tonight, even T-Mac has not scored that much because the team doesn't need it tonight, although it does hurt him stats-wise in the race for the top scorers in the league.

What amazes me is how selfish some YOF are, and I really do think that their true colors show with a game like tonight and they can do nothing but complain about Yao's touches/points etc. The bottom line is WINNING, don't you people understand that?

Oops, sorry, no you don't, because all you care about is Yao's personal stats and personal glory, but screw the Rockets, we would rather go back to that 6-11 Yao-focused team at the beginning of the year.

No ONE player is more important than the team as a whole. T-Mac is a great individual player, but he needs EVERYONE around him on the team to make him better. Yao needs T-Mac to make him a winner and relieve him of the enormous pressure on his shoulder earlier this year, which he clearly did not respond well to. He is much more comfortable being 'one of the guys', I thought you guys have repeatedly said that this is part of his upbringing, which I think is a great thing about Yao.

Texas Stoke said it best: selfish fans or a truly selfless (great and yet humble) person/player.

 

Uh-oh, do we have another Cat-SF3 situation on hand here?

Get a room guys!

 

Heh - maybe -2- big macs.

 

Not worth a new thread, but the Rockets just made ESPN's #1 play of the day.

Of course it was Outlaw dunking on Yao...what's new?

I thought McGrady's behind the back to Deke was worth a top 10 spot.

 

I don't get it, what's this about? Another self-rightous, self-glorifying claim of a "model-original-official-qualified" fan? The bickering is long gone. It started when Yao was at 1-1, and 3-3, TMac was 0-3, and Rockets was down 4 points. ONE GUY, one single guy, mentioned they could go to Yao more. Meanwhile, Wesley and Sura hit some shots beautifully, all of the sudden Taxas Stroke started his blame war of YOF, throwing that beloved label left and right. Is that worth it?

don't just copy and paste your old stuff from last year and act superior here. Go through the whole thread once again, which single poster, which single post mentioned that yao is more important than the team, yao's stats is more important than the win. What's your logic, man? What? Yao got more touches will make the team suffer? who said he had better stats during 6-11? I thought you are an educated "real" bastketball fan, I thought you would understand in the beginning of the season, we had 60% of new start lineup, I thought you would know that TMac and Yao were adjusting each other. All of the sudden, it became Yao's fault that they were 6-11? Did that guy hit some taboo? By mentioning yao and touches in the same sentense? Jesus Christ!

I thought everyone was happy about Rockets' recent success. But you don't sound like you are, coz you are too upset that some "fans" (although you don't recognize them in your rightous mind), are indeed a little bit different than you. I am sick and tired of this YOF labeling, anyone dares to mention Yao's touches, he/she is a YOF, not a true Rockets fan. How convenient.

It's all about persception, if you think someone is evil, you can paint whatever evil motive to him, you could come up with some "reasonable" explanation. Yeah, we are winning, Yao doesn't need touch; if it's tight, WTF is the 7'6 guy doing without standing up tall, no touches, why not complain? Own fault! but shots are falling, why Yao? he could set picks and get rebounds, it's a team game, he's such a nice guy, he doesn't mind, why do you mind? Tell you what, i don't mind his 13 points today, not at all. But I do mind this self-rightous ranting, diversifying fans, classifying fans. It's a game, we are all suppose to have fun. In a blowout game, some guy mentioned maybe more touches for Yao, was he really complaining, cursing, blaming anyone particularly? NO, not before the label was threw towards him. And You have to stand up and show your support after it was over already, that YOU are the true fan. Others were just bandwagoners and "you people".

It sucks to read posts like that!

 

Gotta love FSN for replaying the games...it's on now...

 

If it was ONE guy I would not have given a damn. Go back and read the thread, many posters were complaining about Yao's touches, and at a time when the Rockets were playing flawlessly as a team. I'm not eager to label someone a YOF, I don't have to be, they make it very difficult for me not to label them a YOF when they are whining about Yao Ming not getting enough shots when the team winning by a good margin and playing so well. If you don't want to be labeled a YOF don't care about one players stats over the teams success. Thats what a good 8 YOF's were doing in succession there for the first half, its right there in writing.

 

That's the culture here. You shouldn't wasting your time.

 

Maybe you should have read the whole thread first. And not just stop at tigers.

 

While we are at it, let's read it again. I admit I made a mistake by saying one guy, but all they were saying at the beginning of the game, and mentioned about Yao's touches, that he could get more. All the other guys happened to agree. Was that a real complain? Yes and No, you could say that's a complaint about Yao's stats, but you could also say that was about easy way for Rockets to win. When Texas Stoke jumped in, we already had a lead with big margin. Anyone was complaining at that moment? Nope. so it's ok to label them and make them evil according to their comments 20 points before, right? And we have to do that, right? coz those are evil YOFs.

Now, let's go back to those posts, which one gave you the impression that they care about Yao's stats more than team success? Just because the guy said TMac didn't pass to Yao when he had perfect position? Applying your logic, if someone says that TMac should go to the rack more, is a TOF? Why? Let me explain it to you, coz I can add whatever motive as I want, right? That guy just wants TMac to have pretty dunks, wants him to be on the sportscenter highlights, that's why he asks him to go to the rack more, give up jump shots (because another guy said last time, those are all makeable shots for him). So that guy puts TMac's personal glory over team success. HE IS TOF! Isn't it ridiculous? YES! Why isn't labeling YOF everywhere NOT ridiculous? Because of your perception, like I said. If you believe some guy is bad, whatever he does, you could always EXPLAIN it in a bad way.

Were there people only caring for Yao's stats? Sure! Just like there were people only care for SF3's crossover and dunks. I condemned them too. But aren't the numbers dropping dramatically? I believe so. Why provoke and fire randomly? What for? Anyone who mentions touches and Yao in the same sentense is a YOF? That's just unwarranted. That's all I am saying. All those supporting of Texas Stoke after the bickering long gone, from those who are late for the party, are just making things worse. It's not helping in the environment at this great forum. JMHO. Good night.

 

They don't show the whole game though.

They skip through it to make it fit in their time constraint.

 

NONE of this was directed at ANY single poster, it is just a GENERAL criticism of what some posters have done in the past, and no I don't label people YOF on the BBS, I won't say that. I was just making a general statement and said "games like this tonight" (alluding to previous game threads in which rediculous stuff was said about Yao not getting touches, Sura not passing, T-Mac ball hog, etc.)

Don't take it personal, I should have made it clear it was not directed towards anyone poster, but just a general statement.

I did not mean to restart the whole thing up, I just came late from the game at TC and went through and read the whole thing.

I won't bring it up again, but just wanted to clarify. To self-righteousness here, I could care less who people root for: Yao or the Rockets, or both. I just would like people to be more forthcoming and clear about whom they are rooting for, so other posters can understand their posts in that context.

Just my opinion, that is all.

And I also wanted to take the opportunity there to praise Yao's character as a person before he is a player, his demeanor and selfless character makes me truly in awe of him. Being at the game tonight, and having my eye on the Rockets bench more than it was on the actual game, I was able to more closely observe Yao's interaction with his teammates, and he is an exceptional person to be around.

Still, WHO CARES! Rockets WON!

 

sth u may not know.............
after this win, Rox have joined the .600 club.

 

Well.....Im glad to see that the complaining about Yao not getting shots and the whining about Yao sitting in the 4th(when he wasnt needed...garbage time is no time for your stars) wasnt just in chat.

screw it...I aint got the heart for this anymore...

btw...it was mentioned multiple times during the broadcast that CD is lookign for help from multiple places...overseas, NBDL, FAs....