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ClutchFans Game Thread: Blazers @ Rockets 11/3/2012

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Nov 3, 2012.

  1. PureElement

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    I seriously hope we don't waste Morris' talents by making him camp out at the 3. I mean he can shoot the three, but did you see him when he drove to the basket from the corner? He looked very natural drawing that foul and trying to finish hard. Thats something we never see with Pat Pat (0 FTA in 2 games). I think Morris can be our 3rd scoring option if we use his natural scoring talents and not let him fall in love with his jumper.
     
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  2. rockmanslim

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    Nice long winded stat filled post to discredit what Lillard did in a win.

    Did you discredit Lin when he did something similar in the first Toronto game? He played like dog crap for most of that game, turned it over several times in a row from what I recall, putting them in a big hole, before he turned it around in crunch time, when it mattered.

    Lillard is the early front runner for ROY right now btw.
     
  3. EarlIII

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    Those were not defensive mistakes by Lin. Wes had a straight path line to the rim after he came off the screen. It was a mistake by the Rockets big man for not defending that screen well.

    But if you want to talk about defensive mistakes, what about Harden giving Wes that 3 shot to tie the game in regulation? Harden should have just let Aldridge try to score because it would have been 2 points at the most.
     
  4. pcheung08

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    Why keep on bringing up other team's player to step on your team's player. Whether he played good or not, he is not a Rocket. Are you a real Rocket Fan?
     
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    Agreed....
     
  6. Lihao

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    being Rockets fan doesn't meant you can't praise other's team or their players when they perform well , in fact it should be the right thing to do rather than trash talk at each other
     
  7. jopatmc

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    You haven't even seem him with the post-up yet. As long as McHale keeps the rooks glued to the bench, Morris should be the second or third scoring option on this team.
     
  8. torocan

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    Who's discrediting what Lillard did? Lillard stepped up and made some important baskets. However, as people like to point out with Lin's 25 starts last year, SAMPLE SIZE.

    However, if you are a coach operating off similar information, and LMA is lighting you up, what would YOU tell your defenders to do?

    And yes, when Lin played Toronto, I pointed out that he had a horrible game for the most part, but he stepped up at the end. Frankly, I was much more impressed with the and1 that tied the game than the 3 pointer which itself was a low percentage win shot (unless your name happens to be Novak).

    The 3 pointer at the end was a percentage play. If it goes in you win, if it doesn't you end up in OT. Neither are horrible outcomes, especially when Calderon decided to sag so much.

    And to be honest, it was a defensive error on Calderon's part. Not that he sagged (correct defensive decision), but that he lost track of the clock. When it dropped to under 6s, he SHOULD have moved up on Lin knowing that Lin wouldn't have time to drive.

    The difference is I recognize that Lin is a young and developing player, so mistakes are inevitable. If he was a multiple year veteran, it would be a very different standard.

    If Lin misses a rotation, that's an error. However, it's not nearly so egregious an error as a 5 year vet missing a rotation.

    Look at it like this... you get a fresh kid out of college show up at your work. He does some great things that show considerable talent and instincts, but he makes some mistakes.

    Do you smack him down for making mistakes? Or do you consider him a work in progress due to inexperience?

    Is it a double standard to call a vet out on an error harshly and give Lin a partial pass? Not at all. When Lin is a vet, I'll hold him to a similar harsh standard.

    People forget how inexperienced Lin really is. That he's playing at the level he is, in spite of his lapses is the remarkable part.

    Here's some interesting tidbits....

    Patrick Patterson - 2,418 minutes played
    Chandler Parsons - 1,924 minutes played
    Omer Asik - 2,064 minutes played
    Tony Douglas - 3,750 minutes played
    Carlos Delfino - 9,961 minutes played
    James Harden - 5,998 minutes played
    Daequan Cook - 5,558 minutes played

    Jeremy Lin - 1,338 minutes played

    Think about those numbers. Yes, Lin makes mistakes. We can argue the Lillard play (which I think ANY defender should have made), but that's a personal opinion.

    All I'm saying is that we shouldn't hold Lin to an unreasonable standard.

    When Lin has lapses, while it is frustrating should be EXPECTED.

    As McHale said, Lin is an UNFINISHED product. And that's part of why he's so intriguing.
     
  9. pcheung08

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    Agreed 100%, but continuously to do so in order to disguise your team's player becomes very annoying.
     
  10. roxxy

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    Wow this is crazy. Fist it is Lin vs Dragic then Lin vs Lowry now Lin vs Llilard. This is all so absurd. Don't understand why people are making something out of nothing.
     
  11. javguy

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    Sorry but most of us did not watch him at Beaver State or wherever he came from. We can only judge him based on his NBA tenure which isn't long enough. The haters like to point out that Lin's 25 games during Linsanity is too small of a sample size yet you've come to a conclusion with a guy with 3?

    Unless you're Manute Bol or Yao Ming, EVERY NBA player has played basketball prior to the NBA including Lin.
     
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    No need to singling out each player for their mistakes. Harden was clearly gassed and played with a twisted ankle. Everyone made mistakes and it's a team loss.
     
  13. pcheung08

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    I really don't give a damn who is better than Lin, All I want is for Lin to play well and improve from game to game to lead the team win. I really hope he can bring Linsanity to Houston for the Rockets to be recognized nationally and internationally so that "so called" super stars will consider to join and lead to a championship to Houston. Why? because I am a Rocket fan now because of Lin (call me LOF if you want). If he played bad and cause the team lose that game, I would be sad and very disappointed but instead of bashing him or other players, I would cheering him and the team on, go for the next game.

    Like last game, everyone played hard and just unfortunate that the last play did not execute well. What else can you ask for if every one played their ass off for 3 games in 4 nights? Mistakes were made, yes, so be it. We are young, we can improve.

    Go Rockets.
     
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    late work, late night, so I know I'm late on this, but...

    I was watching the replays and am just like wtf... how did they NOT call a foul on that last shot by Harden? Don't get me wrong, I'm all about players deciding the game... but it was by NO means all ball!! That was an obvious foul, all over both of his hands, and not shots. Even tho Houston kind've looked like we blew from the start of the 2nd half-on, that was still deerving of some game-winning FTs. thats some opening night bullsht.
     
  15. Lorenzomax

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    Obviously...we lost this game by our own

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  16. Lorenzomax

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    ^ Tm Game Score Margins = ( PTS + 0.4 * FG - 0.7 * FGA - 0.4* ( FTA - FT ) + 0.7 * ORB + 0.3 * DRB + STL + 0.7 * AST + 0.7 * BLK - 0.4 * PF - TOV ) - Tm GS Per Game
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    Portland also had a game last night. Their defense was sharp, and their blocks and shutting us down at the rim helped them.

    True we missed some lay ups we might not normally missed, but I'll give credit to the Trail Blazer defense.

    Morris looked better last night than he did against the Hawks even. Douglas played some good defense but should never be the primary ball handler on the floor. Patterson had some good moments, and some mistakes. Parsons was terrific doing all the little things. Asik also missed some shots that he should definitely make. Aldrich looked pretty good last night too.

    Another sad thing is that Harden still played 41 minutes last night. We need to find a group that can make it possible to limit Harden's minutes.
     
  18. mvpcrossxover

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    welp, i warned saopaolo and he didn't listen:eek:

    now he's banned
     
  19. rockmanslim

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    Actually, all I'm saying is Lillard has range. No reason Lin should've been gambling the way he did and often does. Show me a scouting report that says Lillard doesn't have range. You won't find one. Do you think he magically just started playing basketball this week?
     
  20. ashiin

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    Did clutch record the Intro video? I thought it was really epic I wanna watch it again
     

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