Clutchfans (Fade's) 2008 Fantasy Baseball Trash Talk Thread

Trade accepted, Fade. It will probably haunt me, but I need the offense as I screwed up my pitching stats by not paying attention early on.

I will now make up a voodoo doll for your pitching staff.

 

Another trade to announce:

Expos send:
Delmon Young
2009 1st round draft pick

PSJ sends:
Ryan Braun
2009 4th round draft pick

The draft pick exchange is reflected on the League Rules page, which is where all traded draft picks will be recorded.

 

Jesus Keerist. TIBS.

 

Yeah, I was glad to see Broxton available. Had to add him because I don't trust Sherill to maintain his performance over the second half.

 

What in the world?

fade, I don't suppose you actually have records of lineups that we've submitted? I just looked at my last 3 games, and C.C. Sabathia hasn't been in my lineup since week 29. That makes absolutely no sense.

Is there any chance the system screwed that up? It seems to do weird things from time to time.

 

That's really strange, DH. Unfortunately, no, I do not have logs of lineup submissions. Nor do I have any possible explanation for why he isn't in your lineup. Have you been setting it yourself in week 29/30/31 or having the computer roll it over for you?

I think it's pretty obvious that there is no situation in which you would ever want to bench someone like Sabathia, so I would lean toward making retroactive changes and inserting CC into your lineup for that past three game periods. However, this will definitely affect the outcome of some of those matches, so I'd like to hear what other league members have to say and put it to a vote.

To everyone -- Should CC Sabathia be inserted retroactively into DH's lineup for the week 29, 30 & 31 game periods in which he is absent?


*sigh* With the whole "too many pitchers" issue and now this, it's looking more and more like this should be an asterisked season.

 

I generally just let the computer roll it over unless there's an injury to address.

I'm totally cool with whatever decision the league makes. That's why I was kind of hoping you got some kind of logs.

 

I'm telling you Fade, I believe there's a glitch with the system this year. I never sat my SS or C yet they were on my bench for weeks even though I set my lineup every week.

My vote would be to allow CC and his points count towards the previous weeks. He's a star and I wouldn't think he'd ever be on the bench. If DH says he was placing him in the starting lineup or never removed him from the rotation I have no reason to not believe him.

 

Guys, I am going to have to excuse myself on this, because let's be honest the only one this effects outside of DH, is me - so I am in a no win comment situation. To me these leagues should be fun............

That being said, you definitely cannot go back weeks, as that sets a terrible precedent. To give you example, at the beginning of the year when I was on vacation with my family, I set me line-up for all the games I would be gone and it turned out I didn't have pitchers in my line-up, therefore lost all 3-4 of those games - granted that has helped my pitch count to date. I remember an incident with LH not having all his position players in his line-up and I am sure there are other circumstances.

Anyways, that is my 2 cents.

 

I agree...............but you can also say that about any season you are in the playoffs or happen to win.

 

(edit) double post

 

PhiSlammaJamma's comment via e-mail:

 

Hey guys... for whatever it's worth, I dug around in my old emails and found the actual lineup submissions. I'll forward them to fade so that you know I'm not just making them up, but it seems like it's a combination of glitch and my fault. I submitted the following lineup on June 7th, because Milton Bradley was injured for a few games, so I put Andre Ethier in in his place. This was my lineup going into week 29:

1B-Fielder,Prince, MIL
2B-Kinsler,Ian, TEX
3B-Cantu,Jorge, FLA
SS-Cabrera,Orlando, CWS
C-Kendall,Jason, MIL
OF-Victorino,Shane, PHI
OF-Ethier,Andre, LA
OF-Ellsbury,Jacoby, BOS
OF-Lee,Carlos N., HOU
SP-Looper,Braden, STL
SP-Cain,Matt, SF
SP-Haren,Dan, ARI
SP-Kazmir,Scott, TB
SP-Sabathia,C.C., CLE
RP-Franklin,Ryan, STL
RP-Lidge,Brad, PHI
UI-Youkilis,Kevin, BOS

Weirdly, with no lineup change for week 30, C.C. Sabathia mysteriously dropped from my lineup. Maybe this is because of the trade to the Brewers? I don't know. Anyway, I didn't notice obviously.

On the 13th, I put Milton Bradley back into my lineup, presumably just by dropping Ethier and adding Bradley. Theoretically I should have made sure that the rest of my lineup was correct at the time, but I just did a quick add/drop in the lineup, and obviously I wasn't looking. This was the lineup I submitted.

1B-Fielder,Prince, MIL
2B-Kinsler,Ian, TEX
3B-Cantu,Jorge, FLA
SS-Cabrera,Orlando, CWS
C-Kendall,Jason, MIL
OF-Victorino,Shane, PHI
OF-Bradley,Milton, TEX
OF-Ellsbury,Jacoby, BOS
OF-Lee,Carlos N., HOU
SP-Kazmir,Scott, TB
SP-Haren,Dan, ARI
SP-Cain,Matt, SF
SP-Looper,Braden, STL
RP-Franklin,Ryan, STL
RP-Lidge,Brad, PHI
UI-Youkilis,Kevin, BOS

At the very least, week 30 was definitely a system glitch. (although I won anyway and it probably doesn't matter, but if we're splitting hairs that was an intended SP game that should count against me)

I can see how the week 31 lineup change is partially my fault, but I also think that it's definitely something that wouldn't have happened if not for the week 30 glitch.

As a potential resolution, since I think what PSJ says is true (players may make different lineup changes based on who they expect to see) I think it would be fair to allow Rook to adjust his lineup by adding another pitcher if he wanted to "even things up". (he's currently starting 6) As far as last weeks game, Da Yankees already started a full 7 pitchers, so I don't think there's anything more or less that could have been thrown against my team last week.

Anyway, just some more info and a couple of thoughts.

Thanks,
DH

 

Thanks to all who responded.

This is a pretty crappy situation with no solution that will be completely fair to everyone, but a decision needs to be made and after hearing people's input and considering everything, I believe that the previous lineups should not be changed.

I don't think anyone here doubts DarkHorse's word, but going back and changing any of the previous results would seem to create too many other "fairness" problems to be a viable option. I think each of the points that Phi made are quite valid, and I also think it would be a sort of double standard for me to go back and change things now while having not done it for the other "too many pitchers" issue from a few weeks ago. If this was caught earlier, while the game period was still ongoing, then I would have an easier time making the change, but going back and tampering with previous results is just a no-win situation.

So that's it. Previous results will stand.

DarkHorse -- Really sorry, man. It sucks, but this is the way it will be. Hopefully this won't end up being a deciding factor for playoff spots in the end.

 

This is the Barry Bonds season of Fade's Fantasy Baseball.

 

Actually it would have affected the last TWO games, because I would have beaten Da Yankees as well if Sabathia had been playing.

But it's cool. I don't know that I expected anything to come of this. I was just frustrated. Still am.

But at the end of the day, hopefully it won't affect anything.

 

Fade, did you get the details for the trade between myself and PSJ today? He gets my 3rd round pick next year and I get his 8th round pick.

 

好，非常的好