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[ClutchFans] Chandler Parsons won’t be getting a free pass any longer

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jul 10, 2014.

  1. Deckard

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    True, but the average fan looks at the contract, the yearly salary, not the cap impact. Not everyone hangs out at ClutchFans soaking up info from our resident capologists, and hopefully understanding some of it. ;-)-
     
  2. blahblehblah

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    You forgot the most likely scenario IMO - three - Morey felt that they could potentially lock up Parsons longer-term at a more reasonable cost through restricted free agency than if he hits unrestricted free agency in 2015.

    I've seen a lot of opinions stating that the Rockets was declining Parsons contract only to do him a huge favor, whereby he would reciprocate with a wink wink deal. This theory chooses to forget that just a few months ago there existed a very real question/dilemma of whether or not to pick up his option. Everyone seemed to have forgotten that the decision was not as simplistic or one sided as doing or not doing Parsons a favor, but was in fact a complicated situation which many articles were written about, including TWO by Clutchfans own BimaThug - http://rockets.clutchfans.net/5862/chandler-parsons-contract-exercise-decline-team-option/ & http://rockets.clutchfans.net/3681/chandler-parsons-contract-take-two/
    As well as one from Clutchfans Ben Dubose arguing why the Rockets should make Parsons a RFA. http://rockets.clutchfans.net/4721/chandler-parsons-free-agency/
    Other articles from local & national media includes http://www.sbnation.com/2014/2/11/5400700/chandler-parsons-rockets-conundrum-nba-free-agency
    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/05/daryl-morey-undecided-on-chandler-parsons-option/
    http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2013/11/rockets-forward-parsons-worth-on-upswing/#17460101=0

    No where in these articles is the suggestion that the Parson decision is as simple as the Rockets deciding to do Parsons a favor in return for a backdoor deal. While some argue in favor of exercising the option, others argue against it. The primary rationales in favor of RFA were - The advantageous of RFA over UFA. Morey's history with RFA. The outcome of the 2013 RFA class ie... Pekovic, Tyreke, Teagues etc. The ability to decide. While the ones against RFA were - cost certainty, cost benefits as well as financial flexibility. In sum as BimaThug stated in his article, "When all factors are included, there is no easy choice for the Rockets." http://rockets.clutchfans.net/5862/chandler-parsons-contract-exercise-decline-team-option/

    Morey gambled that RFA would play out like 2013 or like the Scola, Lowry or Brooks cases & he would be able to resign Parson's to less than market rate.
    The Rockets took the calculated risks of RFA which they could ultimately still control over the unknown risks of UFA where they'd have ultimately no control, unfortunately for Morey, RFA played out exactly the opposite of 2013.
     
  3. steady

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    Nice article Clutch.

    Another possibility for why the Rockets did not extend Parsons contract might be that Morey thought he could negotiate a better deal with Parsons this year than next. Who knew Parsons was already so overvalued. Morey miscalculated but in my mind the mistake was understandable.
     
  4. aurocketfan

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    Well said. 15 mil for Parsons? The market is unbelievable.
     
  5. roe4christ

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    It was an innocent question looking for an answer. No need to be a jerk in your response.

    If we matched Parson's offer and kept him, could we then use him in a trade for Love? If not, please explain. Just trying to understand our options.
     
  6. J.R.

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    • Rockets can match or decline
    • No sign and trade
    • Earliest he could be traded is December 15th
    • Can't be traded to Dallas
    • Basically has a one year no-trade clause, where they can't trade him without his consent.
     
  7. JustAGuy

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    Well... the difficulty there is there aren't that many players actually worth 15M, and the competition for them is fierce. Parsons may not be worth 15M worth of space in the abstract, but you have to be able to plug something into that hole in your roster this year.

    Might not be doable. Which is in part why people are bidding so high for players like Parsons.
     
  8. torocan

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    Not this year unless he wants to, and not until December 15th.

    IF you match a RFA, you can't trade them immediately. You have to wait until at least the mid-season trade season. And for the entire FIRST season, you can not trade him unless he consents to the trade.

    So later on we could trade him for Love... IF he accepted the trade (IE, to Minnesota or a 3rd team).

    The way the Mavs offer is constructed however has a trade kicker, so even after this season when you Can trade him it will hurt the value of his contract. Combine that with a 3rd year player option and his $15M contract won't bring anything close to "fair" value. You would most likely need to add a TON of sweetener for a player like Love.
     
  9. torocan

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    Well, the flip side is that you don't necessarily need a $15M small forward.

    IF you get a replacement player for the small forward, you can match that production with a PG, small forward, or power forward (which opens the options considerably). Getting a 3&D small forward can hold down the position if you get a $15M at either of the other positions.

    OR you can use that $15M to get significant upgrades (with a few more buck) to upgrade 2 or all 3 spots. 3 above average players can functionally be as good as an "all star", especially if you build bench depth.

    And while it's always competitive to get a $15M player, you could also argue that at least with that $15M available you can take either route... a 3rd all star, or 2-3 above average players.
     
  10. jev5555

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    Yes, but 60% of that 60% dont truly understand NBA capology.
     
  11. OremLK

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    I think it just shows that the salary cap/max contract levels are set WAY too low. If Parsons is worth $15M on the open market, LeBron should be worth like $60M and guys like Bosh should be worth $30M.
     
  12. Jake Tower

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    That's like $1 per pump fake.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    If Chandler is worth this how much is Harden worth. Max contracts are dumb.
     
  14. Boughtit

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    Great article and good point about Lin's contract.
     
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    Great article with good knowledgeable post.
     
  16. daoshi

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    You won't be able to trade the guy at that price tag. Hayward's situation is different since the Jazz has no ball dominating "star", so it's all on him to play up/down to his contract, and everyone knows that he will never be worth it.

    It's different here in Houston when you have Harden dominating the ball, Howard will demands more touches now with one season under his belt, and Bosh will need a lot of touches if he is signed here, there will be no way for Parsons to have any opportunity to play up to $15mil price tag.

    Plus, I don't think he will ever be good enough for that kind of contract.
     
  17. verysimplejason

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    Nothing's jerky about his response. There are posts already by Bima and Carl Herrera about this. You can look at the other threads for Parsons. It's in the first page.
     
  18. calurker

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    And how did that work out for Scola, Lowry and Brooks? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, three times, four times...well, fortunately Parsons is smarter than that.

    And I totally agree with the article that the contract is driven by animosity. That's exactly why we did it to the Knicks when we nabbed Lin. Right?

    I really couldn't care less about how the team treats its players or how the players reciprocate. I just find it unseemly that the team (or its fans) can dish it but can't take it. I think under Morey's reign, this team has become harder to stay emotionally invested in because the roster turns over like a revolving door. If even an (increasingly) casual fan feels this way, imagine how the players must feel!
     
  19. roe4christ

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    Thank you for the clarification. Much appreciated.
     
  20. Marsarinian

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    Exactly my stance on this issue. Well said.
     

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