[ClutchFans] BimaThug: Sit Tight and Play the Hand

Its always better to sell a year early than a year late. Thats what la did with shaq.

 

If Yao is unable, that wipes off a significant chunk. With Yao, Shane, and Jeffries off the books we can really make something special happen.

 

How much money will we have left after using it on Luis,Kyle,and Brad?

 

New salary cap article forthcoming. Clutch should have it up tonight or tomorrow.

 

Are you going to admit your gloom and doom in regards with the cap were premature ejaculation? :grin:

 

Basically none (maybe just a little). It'll be in the new article.

Huh? I was just reporting what the league was reporting.

 

LMAO

 

I thought so.

What do you think that we could realistically get back which could help us in the future for S/T's involving Yao,Battier and Jeffries? Let's face it,if Yao doesn't do well we need something back in return. Battier's role becomes limited in Yao's absence.

 

Yeah and Shaq won a championship the following year.

Its the same thing the Mavericks did with Steve Nash.

Its the same thing the Astros did with Nolan Ryan.

You don't trade away a great player when there's a fairly decent chance they could still be great, especially when its low risk and you only have him under contract for one more year....especially when you want to trade him for Hasheem freaking Thabeet....is this a joke?

 

Good article.

 

You're right, but yao isn't a great player and never was. Not to mention, the lakers are better off today than they would have hanging on to shaq eating up 30m in space. Where has nash taken the suns by the way vs the mavs. I do believe the mavs made it to the finals and the suns haven't. I said thabeet and picks because the grizz would go cheap and wind back up in lotto land.

 

lulz

So the Lakers are better off because they had those 4 years of complete and total mediocrity? The Lakers didn't sell a year early. They sold 3 years early. And we are only under contract with Yao for ONE MORE SEASON! If he sucks you get your wet dream and he is gone.

To the Western Conference Finals 3 times. The Nashless Mavs made it to the Finals once, then got bounced (by Shaq) and haven't done anything since. If you can find me one Mavs fan that's glad they got rid of Nash I'll give you a cookie.

We already have 2 lotto picks in the next 2 years and a deep team with tons of young, tradeable assets. We don't need more picks. We need "that guy" (your words, not mine) who we could quite possibly get via a trade with some under the water team in February.

F it, let's just get Thabeet!

 

Daryl Morey is BimaThug. GANGSTER.

 

I shook my head in disbelief

 

The truth everybody knows it to keep the younger guy happy they kicked the former best player out to make room for the next MVP.
Just getting rid of bad vibe.

 

I'm not that skilled in breaking down every reply, but i will try to respond. What do you call great first off? Once you answer that, tell me when was yao ever considered great?

I didn't agree with the trading of shaq, but I understood it even if he got another title first. They already had a great player in kobe and shaq through his own doings would do enough to make it through the seaon then turn it on. I'm assuming the lakers thought as he got older, this would be a problem. Guess what? It looks as if they were right. He was traded in 04-05 season and shouldve won the mvp that year. He followed that with a injury plagued, but good season in miami. The next year he was injured again and they lost in the first round. The next season they were going nowhere fast and was traded to phoenix and lost in the 1st rd of the playoffs. The next year, he played well and they missed the playoffs in phoenix.The next season he was traded to cleveland and had career lows. In that same span, la missed the playoffs once,was 1 and done 2 times and made it to the finals winning 2 times and losing 1 time.

The nash situation. Again, i don't think it was the right situation, but if you watch basketball you would know why nash has been better in phoenix vs in dallas. In case you don't know, I will break it down to you. Nash hasn't found this magical fountain and have all of a sudden became great because he discovered something new per se. His transition from a tam full of play creators to a team full of play finishers is what enhanced his career. I will relate it like going from the old nebraska triple option to the texas tech offense under leach. In dallas, he had players who didn't ned him to get them a shot. Dirk nor finley needed nash to get them a shot. This took the ball out of his hands alot and even though he was an all star, his impact was smaller. In phoenix, every players except joe johnson needed nash to get them a shot because they had play finishers. Marion and amare could get easy buckets on the court playing with nash who was now controlling the ball 85% of the time. This is one of the biggest reason why they strugle so much when he was out. You can't find a backup that can do the same thing because most backups aren't going to control the offense as much. Its not a knock on him, its just what it is.

Thabeet and the lotto picks. This team even in transition won 42 games. If they couldve made the martintrade earlier or had someone protecting the rim, they ould've won 50. Its easy to say they couldn't use another high lotto pick, but I would bank on the rockets with thabeet at the rim and the offensive players they have winning 50 games. I also would bank on memphis never being serious enough of a contender or yao staying healthy for the rockets not to get a high lotto pick. You know how the pistons was ever in position after having the best record in the east to draft number 2? The vancuver grizzlies decided to take a run on a vet like thorpe. The protection lasted only with the top pick till 02 or 03. What kind of picks do you think the rockets can get for yao from memphis whcih would put them squarley in the playoffs? probably anything the rockets want. How do you think the grizz would afford to pay gasol,yao,and randolph in the same offseason? Thats my point. I would rather gamble with the potential of getting not only a pick from the knicks, but also a pick from the grizz.The team is good enough right now to contend for a playoff spot right now anyway,but they not close enough even with yao healthy to contend for the ring and thats what its all about anyway.

 

A perrenial all-star and best low post center in the game for an extended period of time. Is he an all-time great? No. But he is either the best or second best center in teh league if he's healthy.

Just by comparison. Yao's year in year out PER rating (not my favorite statistic but it simplifies things) was on par with Hakeem. Not saying he's Hakeem's equal, heavens no, but he's dang good in his own right.

I'm not going to try to argue the specifics of Shaq's importance and production. It's pointless. The only thing that matters is that Shaq was under a long-term contract, Yao is not. There is no pressing need to trade Yao "before its too late". If he deteriorates that sucks and we move on.

I know why Nash has been better in Phoenix than he was in Dallas, but he was still dang good in Dallas and I bet you every Dallas fan wishes they held on to him. Just like D-Wade and LeBron on the same team. Those guys probably aren't perfect fits for each other since they largely do the same thing. But if you're asking me if I could have both would I take it? Hell yes I would!

Thabeet and the lotto picks.[/QUOTE]

We tons of assets. We can get a star player without sending away hardly any rotation players and still be able to hold on to one of our NY picks, preferably the 2011. Whether Yao gets hurt or stays healthy we're in a good position.

We have a window right now with all our current players under contract. Let's go for it now. If yao gets hurt then we'll use that pick next year to draft his replacement (it should be higher than 14)