[ClutchFans] BimaThug: Houston Rockets Salary Cap Update

80% of those posts are from DaDa...so filter those out

 

Your comparisons are whack.

Ariza is a better perimeter defender than Jeffries -- that's not disputable. Jeffries, however, is more versatile in the sense that he can give you brief stretches at the C position. If you're relying on Jeffries to guard the better perimeter players in the league, you're in for a crappy season.

Ariza is superior to Budinger on defense and better than Battier on offense. You're trying to make one-sided comparisons to make Ariza seem bad. He was one of our best (and if he isn't #1, he will be in another year or two when Shane ages) perimeter defenders, played great as the fourth role in the starting lineup and has shown the tendency to make big plays when a team needs them.

We would not have a bench player who feels he should be playing -- we PLAYED THE EXACT SAME LINEUP LAST YEAR! Budinger got his minutes and he was fairly effective in them.

I agree that we need a backup SG.. but you don't go trading your starting SF for a backup SG. Don't we remember how much Shane trying to create offense has made us cringe?

The only thing the Rockets did today was become less talented. Whether they are a better team for it will be decided when the games count; but as of an hour ago, we have less talent on our team and the owner has more money in his pocket for it. That isn't cool with me.

 

Finally the salary dumper came!

I've thought Les would go over the luxury line.

no. not gonna happen.

 

I totally disagree, they became more talented because they filled a position of need with a good young player...

And they are much more flexible going forward.

Ariza is just not that good....even Phil Jackson said it....

You miss out on so much truth if you do that.....



DD

 

Pretty much. We will have to see, but i don't like the move at all. Now if you an get me iggy or granger and ariza is part of the package, i guess. I like lee alot, but not right now. Maybe if we had traded for him prior to martin to get rid of tracy, then ok. Not to mention, he was outplayed by cdr last year and he's 4 months younger than trevor. Where was courtnery duing the finals 2 yrs ago? I can tell you where ariza was

 

If the Washington Wizards took Evan Turner over John Wall, would they become more talented because they filled a position of need with a good young player? No, of course not -- Morey's draft motto is to take the best player, regardless of need.

He didn't do that in this trade. I know draft and trades are different animals -- but we still got a downgrade in talent.

 

By my calculations, this trade puts the Rockets at about $3.87M above the luxury tax threshold. Assuming that both Harris and Johnson are waived, the Rockets' payroll could get down to just above $2.13M over the luxury tax threshold.

Well, it looks like I was premature to doubt Morey's ability to maneuver closer to (if not completely under) the tax threshold. While I'm reserving judgment about whether this trade was a "plus" from a basketball standpoint, I do have to agree with DD that it provides the Rockets with much more roster balance, provides the team with a more competent injury replacement for Kevin Martin at the SG position, and allows Chase Budinger to take on a larger role in the rotation.

I'll need to digest this trade for a little while before more fully weighing in on it.

 

I disagree.

I think individual talent wise it was a lateral move, but overall team wise, a great move.

DD

 

Excuse my ignorance ahead of time but saying we pickup Lee's option NEXT season, would that still leave us enough room under the LT to sign Yao to a reasonable contract and pickup a max contract? That wouldn't take into account the new CBA, which will probably lower the max salaries, but strictly working on this current CBA?

 

A new article would be a great addition, I think this trade makes the team so much more flexible in so many areas.

If Yao is healthy, we have pieces to move to put around him moving forward.

If Yao is not healthy, we have expirings to clear the cap room and rebuild with younger players.

This just makes so much sense.....

DD

 

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Bima, i left something for you :grin: . Its so easy to take advantage of the gold watch company men these days. They don't know any better :grin:

 

I think morey said he wanted a whopper jr combo with onion rings. After that, he wants you to wash and park the suv in the garage :grin:

 

Come on now, I just know you are saving that special lotion for when Morey trades Battier.



DD

 

I'll probably write another update once training camp opens. No need to do an update after every single off-season trade. I didn't even want to do that last update until October 1, but the moves came so fast that I felt I had to chime in.

Hahaha, nice. Hey, I'll admit that I was wrong (although they're not UNDER the tax threshold just YET). Hell, I even intimated that I had acted rashly once the Andersen trade happened. And like DD, I am GLAD to see the Rockets getting closer to the tax threshold without necessarily compromising the team on the court. I'm still mulling over what I think of the Ariza/Lee swap, though.

 

My initial feeling about the swap is that it smells like Alston for Lowry, except there's no Brian Cook coming to the Rockets.

My other thought about it is why New Orleans doesn't just keep Lee for themselves? My guess is that Ariza's higher salary (higher than Lee) is actually a plus for New Orleans because they don't want to anger CP even more by looking like they are dumping salary. Ariza makes even more than Posey and at least has some championship pedigree, so may have more gravitas for CP than Lee even if they are comparable in talent level.

Overall, I think it's a good arbitrage job.

 

Those of you calling salary dump have not watched Courtney Lee close enough.

This is Rafer for Lowry at worst.


Courtney Lee is a stud...

 

YES!

This is exaclty the same scenario. Ariza was a starter yes and so was Alston, both were extremely inefficent on the offensive end and overpaid. Lowry wasn't a very popular player on this board because he wasn't a starter and on a losing team.

Same goes for Lee, except he came from a winning team that traded him to the lowly Nets. Lee excelled in moving without the ball and shooting from distance under Orlando, plus he has some good athleticism despite being undersized.

He wasn't a great fit with the Nets seeing that they had no real go to players and really are just a jumbled mess at every position.

Lee will fit nicely and have a lot of us switching sides once the season starts. He is an overall sound player.

 

the two trades are so different.

Rockets took Cook's contract to get Lowry. ....the move was for basketball.

Rockets saved big money to dump a starter...........the move for saving money.

 

Wasn't Lee a starter on the other team in the NBA Finals the year Trevor was showing he can make shots on the big stage? Shouldn't the fact that he could be a starter for a team making a run to the finals - as a rookie - say something about Lee?

 

We got a 6 million dollar trade exception.

What exactly is a trade exception?