[ClutchFans] BimaThug: Houston Rockets Salary Cap Update

Ok, for the last and umpteenth TIME.......

It is not objectionable, and it is exactly what I would do.......I am ONLY COMMENTING ON Morey constantly thanking Mr. Alexander for being willing to pay the tax.

When that has never ever been the case.

DD

 

It's not something for nothing. They would be spending almost $8 mil for Jeffries and Taylor to ride pine for a year and take 2 roster spots. There's a huge difference between trading for the 2007 defensive player of the year and the 2010 no-stats All-star Jared Jeffries. You are making such an odd argument.

 

Says who? You?

Unless you are either Les Alexander or his psychiatrist, you are not in an informed position to deny this assertion.

The facts are:

(A) The Rockets have never been a position where the cost to get below the tax threshold would cost more (in assets) than could be recouped (and then some) with the savings.

(B) After exceeding the tax threshold to re-sign Scola and Lowry, the Rockets made an additional acquisition (Miller) in free agency.

(C) The Rockets are currently nearly $9M over the tax threshold, higher than they ever have been before by a significant margin.

(D) There is no guarantee that the Rockets WILL get below that threshold.

(E) Morey is actively seeking a major talent upgrade via trade.

(F) Major talent upgrades typically involve the receiving team parting with significant young assets and/or taking on additional salary.

Frankly, the facts point towards at least a WILLINGNESS to pay the tax.

To deny that WILLINGNESS is to deny the facts.

 

I don't deny that it looks like they would be willing IF the right player comes along Bima.

DD

 

That's all I needed to hear.

Next time, don't say something different repeatedly while several other posters try to reason with you to take the position you JUST took in the post above.

 

I have been saying that since the very beginning.....at least that was my intent....

I personally do not believe they will get a shot at the right player and they will again, get under the tax.

And, if you recall, I also said, it was smart business.

My only point was that the organization is making a big deal out of something that is not there....yet, it feels very self aggradizing to me.

DD

 

DING DING DING!!!

If you can get under the tax without messing around with the rotation, then why not?

 

Been saying that the entire time, and it is what I believe will happen this year too.

DD

 

Jeffries is a solid vet who can play behind griffin. Taylor is a scorer off the bench to play behind gordon. The first rd pick can be anywhere in the first rd. They got camby for a 2nd rd pick. Ok city got maynor for less than that. It happens and it will happen alot this year with so many teams being under the cap. The wizards got kirk and a first rd pick for taking his contract. I don't know why you're having a hard time understanding this. They have to have a certain amount of payroll anyway. It may be 60m or 57% of the bri i think is the floor. Adding jeffries and taylor will put them at 53 or 54m on a 58m cap.

 

DD, Morey has never thanked Les for PAYING the tax. He has thanked Les on multiple occasions for his WILLINGNESS to spend, even if it means paying the tax. THAT has been the "BS" you've been calling "since the very beginning."

But this semantics debate is getting boring. We know what you REALLY mean now. Glad to see that you FINALLY clarified yourself.

 

I have missed the last 394 posts of DaDakota's input regarding Les and the Luxury Tax and the 2010-11 season.

Can somebody catch me up? I think I tuned out around the part right after Patrick Duffy was in the shower, I mean I thought he was dead or something...wut?

 

leebigez, while I certainly think a trade like that could be conceivable at the trade deadline in February, it's just not realistic RIGHT NOW. I have to agree with BetterThanEver that an under-the-cap team has no reason to eat that much salary for a full season, especially when the luxury tax is determined solely based on end-of-season payroll.

Guys like Camby and Hinrich are far superior players to Jared Jeffries. And, at least in the Wizards' case, they weren't going to be able to give away money to any other good players willing to come there anyway.

Oh, and the minimum team salary is only $43.533M. So I don't think that will be a concern for any team. Even New Jersey has a payroll (barely) higher than the minimum.

 

I agree, i was just saying they could get the 2nd tier granger/iggy player and still get under the lux tax. Now i will say thats alot of wheelin and dealin, but it can happen. I wonder what would have happened if ny wouldn't have coughed up hill or the rockets would have had to just eat mcgrady's contract. I think right now, or after a trade, the rockets need to clean their roster up. There is really no need for hayes,jeffries,and battier when you have hill,patterson,scola,martin,ariza,chase,and taylor. They could clear up some spots and get rid of the redundancy on the roster. If they were to get granger or iggy, then you can throw ariza in that mix as well unless he's part of the package.

 

Why would they pay $8 mil for Jeffries and Taylor? Jared Jeffries is considered way overpaid. They don't need to spend nearly $7 mil on a 7th forward(1 Griffin,2 Aminu,3 Gomes,4 Smith,5 Blakely,6 Butler), who is a 1 year rental. They have other guys with cheaper salaries that are better than JJ, and will be there beyond next season.

They already have Butler, Foye, Gordon, and Warren at SG. They don't really need a 5th SG that badly, that they will take on almost $7 mil in Jeffries salary for the right to get Jermaine Taylor.

 

I don't get what's wrong with Morey thanking Alexander for spending money and saying he's willing to pay tax.

Whether Alexander end up paying tax or not:

(1) He's paying real money to Scola, Lowry and Miller to help the team compete. Given that Morey presumably wants the team to be as good as possible, I don't see what's wrong with Morey being happy, and thankful, that Alexander is spending the money.

(2) The money paid to Scola, Lowry and Miller (and to Kevin Martin before then) may very well cause the team to go into luxury tax territory, and will alsmost certainly do so if they end up trading Jeffries' contract for an upgraded player and take on salary in the process. Alexander may or may not end up paying tax, but he's shown the willingness to do so, and there's nothing wrong with Morey being happy about that.


I don't know why some people see a conspiracy or "marketing ploy" in every corner and think there's something wrong about a team talking positively about itself. Do they want to sell ticket? Hello? Of course they do. Are they lying about anything? Not that I know of. So what's the problem?

What is wrong with the team "making a big deal" out of willingness to spend money and possibly pay tax? They are willing to pay tax, they said it in the context of discussing recent player signings, they are looking to add a star which woudl guarantee paying of tax. I don't see anything indicating this is not true. And if it is true, what's wrong with them talking about it? Is there an NBA rule againt talking about wanting to spend money before you spent it?

Should Morey stop talking about willingness to spend because it somehow offend DD's sense of basketball honor?

 

I agree with this.

 

Yeah, that's it, he has insulted my honor.

LOL - whatever.

Nothing is wrong with the team marketing itself, and speaking positively about it, just recognize it for what it is...that's all.

DD

 

Hahaha I'm just poking fun but ESPN even talks about how our management is willing to spend money...

 

So, is there some truth that you do not think the rest of us recognize? If so, what is it?

 

I don't know if there is or isn't.....I am sure there are some that know it was marketing and then others that thought "Wow, they are really going all out"...

I guess, I was speaking to those who have believe the "All out" talk....

DD