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[Clutchfans]Adelman has no interest in playing Tmac

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by The_Yoyo, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. roslolian

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  2. baller4life315

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    Uh, quite aware actually. This isn't complicated at all. The parallels between the situation Marbury was in last year and the direction this McGrady saga is headed in are undeniable. Teams will be reluctant to trade for a player making $20M+. Why? For starters, matching salaries in a mutually beneficial deal is quite difficult, and teams don't know which version of said player they're getting because they haven't seen them play. Example? Again, the Marbury situation -- he was terrible last year. Teams likely suspected that. Whenever both parties were unable to get on the same page and actually get him out the court, it left a lot to be desired in terms of whether or not he could play anymore. Now, i'm not saying I think McGrady can't play anymore -- far from it, in fact. All i'm saying is microfracture surgery is possible career killer and until teams see McGrady out on the court showing he's healthy and showing he can play, his value is going to remain just that of an expiring contract which brings me back to my original point that I don't think that's good enough to execute a trade. Summer 2010 free agent class or not.
     
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  3. leebigez

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    Until a grievence is filed, I think its a non issue. Personally, tracy should do what's best for his career and the rockets should do what they feel is best.
     
  4. YaoMac09

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    We have, no we had what we needed to go all the way, but there is this guy called God, i heard he is a Jazz fan.
     
  5. wekko368

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    Actually, its entirely irrelevant. How does Marbury eating vaseline say anything about his basketball game?

    Ignorant fans? Intelligent analysts? Which group do you think is more knowledgeable....a group that glances at stat lines and highlights to make its analysis.....or the group that analyzes every aspect of the game before making its decision?

    You think Mavs fans think Dirk is a choker? You think Grizzlies' fans thought Pau Gasol sucked?

    So you think Adelman would take it upon himself to go against the wishes of Rockets' management? Don't kid yourself. If Morey/Alexander wanted McGrady to play, he'd be playing.

    Whether or not the team needs him on the court depends on the team's objectives. We all know McGrady is playing for a new contract, and the better stats he puts up, the more lucrative his contract will be. The question is whether or not he can get these stats playing in Adelman's offense, and historically, his playing style has not shown that he can.
     
  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I think Adelman just honestly thinks T-mac isn't ready. And I think he's right.

    I know I've contradicted myself a bit, but I have been trying to figure this out and the statement above is the only logical conclusion.

    It doesn't fit Adelman's MO to write anyone off.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    No no, you are confusing him with Satan.

    DD
     
  8. roslolian

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    Size upfront isn't the issue with this team, didn't the Atlanta game prove that already? We were out rebounding the Hawks not just in defensive but offensive rebounding at several points, yet we were playing catchup the entire game. What we need is better production from the wing spots, Battriza is a failure so far. A trade for someone like Kevin Martin would do way more for this team than one for Biedrens.
     
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    lol, RA threw Gerald Wallace in the expansion draft! I remember seeing the list of players that the teams didnt put a hold of/avaible to be drafted....and when I saw him, I couldnt believe it. I thought, "Why cant we just trade for this guy?" Geez.
     
  10. wekko368

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    I doubt other players feel sympathy for McGrady. Secondly, I'm not sure a few instances over the span of 7 or 8 years qualifies as a "rep". Thirdly, basketball is a business. Players will generally go to whoever offers the most money.

    How many quality franchises out there keep useless players?

    Underpaying guys? Did we force them to sign the contracts? Btw, Ariza isn't underpaid.

    I hope the Rockets do trade McGrady for scraps as long as those scraps have expiring contracts. Who cares is McGrady badmouths the Rockets? How much weight do you think he pulls with other players in the league? He badmouthed Orlando too, remember? I'd say they've done pretty well since he left them.
     
  11. logicx

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    Agree with the Battriza thing but ignoring the issue we have with size on the court isn't smart either...
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Man, you know I agree about Battriza...heck, I made up that name.

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  13. roslolian

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    Huh? Are you just dense, or just arguing for the sake of arguing? That Marbury would actually eat something like that means he's not right in the head. It goes beyond just basketball, I wouldn't trust him with my kid brother.

    You can arrive at the same conclusion even if you have different methodologies. For example, ignorant fans make sweeping statements like this without any basis:

    I guess the 22 win streak that Tmac was a part of wasn't history then.
     
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    No. Atlanta doesn't have size. Size becomes an issue when we face teams with multiple 7 footers (Lakers, Cleveland, Portland) or teams with star 7 footers (Dallas).
     
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    http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2009/11/rockets_113_kings_106_getting.html
    Me-Mac
     
  16. roslolian

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    Yeah I know, I thought creating that moniker was pure genius. The point is the swing position is where we need the talent most, Hayes and Andersen are doing a decent job at the C position so far.
     
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    The vaseline thing was a publicity stunt, and it's not like it's toxic or anything. Sorry, I'm not dense, I just don't see how you can come to any basketball-related conclusion based on a player eating vaseline as a publicity stunt.


    I suggest you go back and read what I wrote. I said that historically, McGrady hasn't shown that he can play Adelman's system. Do you think the 22-game win streak was Adelman's system? Do you think we were playing the same system back then as we're playing now?

    In case you don't know the answer, we are currently not playing the same system we played during the 22 game win streak.
     
  18. roslolian

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    LOL. The point is we outSIZED them and we still got whooped. Doesn't it make sense then the size isn't the problem?
     
  19. Hball

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    Does Adelman realize that mcgrady will make this team better?... considering ariza and battier have no ball handling skills, mcgrady would allow brooks to play off the ball more especially at the end of games were he can become careless(especially when they trap him). As long as he produces on the court who cares about what he says in the media and off the court. Honestly it's really not that big of a deal, but of course the media always will make it seem that way.
     
  20. RocketsPimp

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    No it doesn't because there is more than one problem. Size is a part of the problem. We can run all night long, but can't stop anyone in the lane to save our lives. It's the same problem Dallas had against Golden State a few years back in the playoffs.
     

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