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[Clutchfans]Adelman has no interest in playing Tmac

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by The_Yoyo, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. wekko368

    wekko368 Member

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    Your point is irrelevant b/c of the respective free agent classes. Marbury's expiring contract would've given its team cap space for the free agent class of 09 which was underwhelming. McGrady's expiring contract will give its team cap space for the free agent class of 2010 which is one of the best FA classes the league has ever seen.
     
  2. baller4life315

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    Agreed 100%. I know we've butted heads in the past but you're right on the money with this one.
     
  3. roslolian

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    Its not just Tmac saying this, videos have shown Tmac already running and dunking without any problems. If he can perform at even 80% capacity why not give him some PT, even if its just 10 mins a game to see how he fits? There is no logical reason to keep Tmac out of the game, we even have a gaping hole at his position in the rotation.
     
  4. caneks

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    Great, now just wait for Morey to find a trade.
    :)
     
  5. LosPollosHermanos

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    paging daywalker... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  6. baller4life315

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    Right. Because the Summer 2010 free agent class is the first real summer where free agency ever meant anything. Yeah, okay. :rolleyes:
     
  7. wekko368

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    Irrelevant.

    Isn't there a similar criticism for McGrady?

    In other words, each organization has it's objectives, and to achieve those objective, both teams deemed it necessary to not play its highest paid player.

    Last year, Marbury took a lot of flak for refusing to play when the Knicks finally asked him to. After all, he was getting a paycheck so he should be doing what the Knicks asked of him. The same logic applies to McGrady. He's getting a paycheck so if the Rockets ask him to sit, he should sit.
     
  8. roslolian

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    Well this point is irrelevant as well because letting Tmac expire would only net us around 9 million capspace. Trading Tmac is the only option we have of getting reasonable value back, and giving him PT if he can play will only raise his trading value. On the other hand, blackballing him will give the Rox organization a bad rep. I'm not saying Tmac is Jordan by any means, but when Chicago broke their dynasty apart and fired PJ no one (including Tmac) wanted to sign up with them even if they had all that capspace. We might get some decent players, but forget about getting a "Rockets discount" if we get a rep like that.
     
  9. Kojirou

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    I'm fairly certain that the injured T-Mac of last year was perfectly capable of running and dunking during practice, so that's irrelevant. In this scenario, it ultimately pays off to be ultra cautious off of someone with an injury history coming off microfracture surgery - we lose nothing by making him wait, and by making him wait, we make sure he's fine, make sure he doesn't come back early and injure himself again like we saw countless times last year, and collect insurance. Total win for the Rockets. Does McGrady lose? I guess - but that's the price he pays for acting as he did last year what with screwing the Rockets over.
     
  10. RedRowdy111

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    (keeping fingers crossed for Eric Gordon)
     
  11. RoxBeliever

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    So if TMac can play, and Adelman still doesn't want him, that can only mean there's more going on behind the scenes than they want us to know officially--such as that Nov 18th "target date" announcement, that heated argument, and then that insurance accusation.

    Plus haven't you noticed no one on the Rockets team has ever said anything about being excited to have TMac play again with them? It's always more of "it's not a distraction to us ..."

    Let's go with Adelman and the players on this one ... they've made their case that they can play good basketball that can make us proud of them even without TMac.
     
  12. wekko368

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    You weren't aware of the implications of the free agent class. No big deal. Get over it.

    Trying to be a smart-ass and trivializing the point only makes you look foolish and immature.
     
  13. TurboGlennbo

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    Legend215 you are spot on. The funny thing is, people who dont have the emotional vested interest in all this but know basketball very well can see everything you point out. Toronto and Orlando ex T-Mac fans have seen his tired act before and have been warning H-Town fans that all this was a coming..... No one should be surprised by any of this.

    The T-Mac fans are cracking me up. You guys will run out of excuses soon. .
     
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  14. wekko368

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    When did I say that we should let McGrady's contract expire? Obviously the Rockets need to trade his contract. Also, you should consider the fact that McGrady's value is in his contract. The only teams interested in acquiring his contract would be those that are looking to rebuild. And the odds are, for those teams, McGrady isn't in their long term plans. Therefore, even if he gets playing time and plays well, it won't add value to his contract.

    Disagree. After McGrady's antics last year, I doubt any GM feels sympathy for him.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Nah, they will take their act to another fan board.

    DD
     
  16. wekko368

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    Either that or spend all their time hating on Yao.
     
  17. roslolian

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    Its not irrelevant at all. Would you want a nutcase on your team? Tmac maybe a diva but he's far from a nutcase. A diva can be a diva and still be productive (Kobe), but a nutcase can be really really good on the court (Rodman), or he may just choke the life out of you (Sprewell). If I mas Mike D' ANtoni I'd file for a restraining order against Marbury.

    Really? I'd like to see one by an intelligent analyst. Most of the guys saying that are just ignorant fans, the same ones who think Dirk is a choker, Gasol sucked before he came to LA, and that AI is the shizzle.

    Its not the "Rockets organization", the title itself says it just RA who doesn't want him to play. The Rockets may be siding with RA, but IMHO that would be a mistake. Shelving him indefinitely would only tank his trade value, and we won't get anything for him in return.

    I'm not arguing this for the sake of Tmac, I'm talking from a team standpoint. I completely agree that since Tmac is getting paid he should be fine whatever the team decides to do. But the question is why he's getting benched in the first place when the team needs him on the court? Is it based on reason? Or is RA just being stubborn and just holding a grudge? Some people here (namely tinman) make love to the ground RA walks on, but players like Gerald Wallace and Kevin Martin know firsthand Rick "the Ruler" isn't always right.
     
  18. logicx

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    I completely agree...and this is my theory also about McGrady wanting to prove himself and regain some Houston fans to make it harder for the Rockets to ship him off somewhere...

    My personal opinion...I've always been someone who's had HUGE respect for the Rockets and the organization...but...

    I don't like the way the Rockets/Adelman are handling this...and I don't like the way Tracy McGrady is handling this. Both, in my opinion, are contributing to the drama that's unfolding in the media...
     
  19. YaoMac09

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    Great! Lets keep playing games with role players who play hard, because no other team is going to match that energy in the playoffs!
     
  20. DaDakota

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    LOL - we aren't going to win in the playoffs without some size up front anyway....might as well play the role players, and let AB, Ariza, Chase and Lowry develop.

    Better yet, trade Tmac for something like Camby or Biedrens.

    DD
     

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