Infamy as in infamous for taking other team's second round picks and making them into gems, and such miracles like robbing Donnie Walsh at gunpoint and trading in a one-legged tmac for Jordan Hill and a NY first round pick.
So he's infamous for paying millions and drafting players in the second round and helping teams get max cap room for All star free agents? Sounds like he's a friend to me.
Not when he makes you look like a fool for letting go of a potentially good pick, and letting go of alot of assets for an uncertain future in free agency.
Reputation takes some time to build up. Also unlike Morey whose roster was built from 2nd rounders and low firsts, Presti's Thunder has been made from lottery picks. Big difference. Nobody wants to end up selling the pick that end up as the next Aaron Brooks. How do you think Dumars felt when he sold the 63rd pick and it ended up being C-bud? Watch DM's presser. Some of his comments are very telling: "We tried to be aggressive but teams don't just want cash, they also want future picks or players. Of course if it was just a matter of cash Les as we have seen has no problems with spending cash to buy picks" ^They did try buying picks but other teams wouldn't sell unless its a ripoff deal. Of course now that Presti came guns blazing he'll probably be on the watchlist too. Not that it'll matter much. Durant+WB+Cole Aldrich=win.
Reputation means nothing. Thats why people keep handing over the Gasols of the world to the Lakers for nothing even though they know Buss is gonna get the better end of the deal all the time. Morey makes great deals and it benifits alot of teams too. Just look at us swapping Artest for Ariza pretty much and then Sacramento what they will do with Dunta Green and Landry there? Alot of teams have benifited from Morey and even the knicks might ultimately be better off without those picks but having cap flexibility again. We did alot of these teams favors too. I am sure Morey will find another trade partner who sees the mutual benifits of having the many assets we have to offer if we want to aquire one of their players. It would be stupid to pass up on a Rockets deal if we offered them the best things available to get back in return.
its hard to continuously thieve GMs when every1 has a close eye on u now.. i kno if i was a GM and if he called me Id think about the Tracey trade and the 2nd round last yr and say ''no sir, im not sellin anything here'' and hit him with the dial tone this isnt to say Morey still cant get over any longer, he jus have to adjust to everyone adjusting to him
Wrong. Reputation is EVERYTHING. People have ego's, and in the NBA, people have HUGE egos. And when someone else comes along and trumps you so often Morey has, then such people hate their guts. The Gasol deal was rigged. There had to have been some blackmail going on, or severe mental r****dation, for that deal to go the way it did. Sacramento has been the exception where we have always had a good relationship that benefited both teams. With most nba teams though, our wheeling and dealing has been lopsided in our favor to the point of absurdity.
We're not talking about trades, we're talking about buying picks. Its all $$$ for picks. There is no win-win trade here. The only ones who win are the owner and us. If the other GM knows DM will get a gem in the 2nd round he'll convince his owner not to sell.
The only problem with that theory is now we do have the Knicks picks and the most to offer to most of these teams back than any other team in terms of young talent and draft picks. So they just arent gonna throw that all away to take lesser deals elsewhere because they are afraid of Morey. That would be a stupid reason making them look even more pathetic if Morey gives a team a great deal of young players and picks while they just lose their max free agent for next to nothing.
On the second rounders. It even looks bad if you dont deal with Houston and they draft a guy like Taylor with your pick who so far hasnt turned out special. So its not really that big a deal either. I think its just teams are happy were they are for the most part and not many deals to be had.
Like Ros said, we are just talking about cash for picks here, not player trades. Other teams were able to buy picks from other teams with just cash. When the rockets wanted to do the same, other teams wanted cash + a player from us. Why? Because they fear Morey.
Then how were other teams able to buy second round picks with cash, when Les would've readily forked over the same amount of money?
Thats a solid thought. I dont think it mattered much. The teams are gonna get theirs different ways. Our team is already stacked with Knicks picks, young guys, and draft picks in their second years of playing. That surplus might be why they ask us for more because we have more to offer than others and they want to see if we can give some of it up in those deals. They couldnt get any of the assets so Morey did good not giving up players and money. We already are stocked to the depth chart in players. Some of whom might not be playing this year at all yet could on other teams.
True, they could've wanted more from us because of the depth we have. But the fact that they were dealing with Morey of all people couldn't have made them comfortable in the slightest. The standard policy among all GMs in dealing with Morey should be to fleece Morey before he fleeces you.
Why will it look bad if you didn't sell your pick? People don't get flack for not selling their pick, they get flack when they pick the wrong player. If you didn't sell the pick and you got a bust all it means is you drafted the wrong player, and not that you not selling the pick was a bad move. The rep for selling 10 picks that turn out to be busts isn't worth the negative rep you get when you sold the one that got away.
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