ClutchCity.net Game Thread: Rockets @ Hornets 12/6/2002

BTW, I guess you guys blame Rudy because the Rockets could not hit an open shot tonight to.

The Rockets lost this game for one reason and one reason alone. They could not hit an open shot...period.

 

76ers also had a tough loss against Spurs tonight. So they will be about the same level as us.

Imagine Ming blocks Allen Iverson drive to the basket... Sounds yummy.

 

It's a shame people can't understand that. Maybe we should fire some of the fans or make them assistant fans. When you're trying to either steal the ball, you want people that are mobile. He took out the 2 least mobile players on the court in Ming and Rice so he could put in 2 defenders, and like you said, when he needed shooters/offensive players, he took the defenders out and put Ming and Rice back in.

 

KT has 29 points, 10 rebounds, and 5 assists while the whole team can't make a basket and KT is the one who lost the game? Francis shoots 10 for 28 and Yao Ming is 7 for 19 and it was KT who lost the game? Are you freakin kiddin me? I suppose it would be brilliant strategy for Rudy to remove KT in the "most important minutes" because Mo Taylor is just playing stellar basketball right now. Why don't you just go ahead and flip the channel, it's obvious you're not really watching.

 

Some people just look for reasons to b**** about Rudy T.

I wonder if they even watched the game? If they had then it would have been obvious why Titto and Juaquin had entered the game.

 

It's so sad that rox lost this game. I am a Yao fan, and a Rox fan too.

 

Just to give credit where it's due, KT kept us in that game the second quarter. To be more fair, aswell (or as lucky) as he played in the 2nd quarter, he wasn't as effective in the second half but he still puts up the shot even though he wasn't hitting them, undoing all the good he did in the second game. I really feel KT is a good bball player, but he doesn't fit with the Rockets and we need to move him.

 

On an even more depressing note (for me), EVERY SINGLE TEAM that I wanted to win today lost!!! EVERY LAST ONE OF EM! Alas... this is a sh!tty feeling I experienced all too often last year. I had some pretty strong hopes for some of these games too.

That Laker comeback was a heartbreaker for Laker-haters everywhere... I hope it doesn't mean good news for them. And we just know it's gonna be all over the sports news for weeks. DAMN!

(My apologies for deviating a little from the topic )

 

that's not fair.
Yao and Steve weren't hitting their shots either. yet they kept shooting.

 

Mo T or Eddie. At least either of them can hit a clutch shot every so often.

all I know is the Rockets lost this game. Francis starting hitting in the 4th quarter. Yao Ming prevented N. O. from scoring in the paint and he had the big putback to tie the game at 84. Jamal Mashburn was scoring on KT in the 4th. Kenny could not produce when it counted in the OT and the Rockets lost

If you are satisfied with having Kenny play the crucial minutes, then I guess you dont mind seeing the L's mount up.

The truth hurts.

I just want to see the Rockets win that's all.

 

After the game was over I was pretty mad at Steve. I thought that he really forced his shoot to much. After I cooled down and watched the rebroadcast/my recorded tape it still looked that way. There is something to say about 3 of his five turnovers.

But during the fourth quarter he quit shooting the outside shoot and helped get us the tie by driving to the basket and getting free throws. They really shot horrible from the floor tonight and Steve missed some layups, you know the ones with all of that english on the ball, that asst. coach Jim Boylen(SP) tought them how to do in practice.

Never the less, we fought hard enough to put the game into OT on the road with the home team having not lost there. So now onto the five minute OT period.

First 2:30 of OT.

Francis (1)20ft jumper missed. Gets offensive reb. Chance for assist but Rice missed for three. Missed another rushed 18ft jumper. Pass to KT, he misses layup.

Moochie good pass to KT. Bad pass to Rice=TO.

KT (1) layup and free throw made. Missed layup

Yao block. Offensive foul. No other touches.

Moochie good pass to KT.

Rice missed three pointer.

Last 2:30 of OT

Steve pass to Yao in post, Gets layup with 39seconds left. Steve misses

Yao fouled (1) free throw missed/made. Fouls shooter on defensive end.

KT ISO, blocked by PJ Brown, then HT fouls him. Both free throws made by J.Magloire. KT passes up layup but he was covered well.

Moochie misses runner in the lane. Down by three Moochie fouls Mashburn with a reach around. Both free throws made with 23.8 down by five . This seems to be the nail in the coffin.

In my opinion we did everything we could do to win. Despite Steve's FG attempts he did pass a lot to Yao, KT and MoT in the post. Rudy coached ok, we just didn't shoot well.

If a few more shots fall we would all be saying what a good win to go there and come back with a WIN. No ones fault, you win as a team and you lose as a team. Regroup and protect the home court.

 

I've never seen it put better. At first I thought that it'd be cool having all these new fans join us. Even if they didn't have a lotta "experience" as Rockets fan, it just would have been nice to have more support even if the only reason they were really there was for Ming. Now some of them (of course I'm not going to say all - maybe the ones whose posts I've been reading lately are the rare, exceptionally stupid ones) seem to be implying that Yao is the only player on this team that can play or that should play and that everything should evolve around him right now, every game... just insane, and it's realy pissing me off.

I never got how a fan can just be a fan of one player anyways (unless, I dunno, you're related or something). It's just pointless.

As far as I'm concerned, no one should post here who's not a ROCKETS fan or a team fan here to trash talk about the Rockets.

 

In all fairness this is the way it should have gone. KT was the only player who was hitting his shots. You can't say KT lost this game. If you want to look at it as KT missed a few shots in OT so that means it is his fault we lost then you need to look at the others who missed shots in OT. Steve wasn't hitting long jumpers all game yet he took some in OT. This lose was a team effort.

 

Oh really smart guy, enlighten me?
Francis hasn't prove a thing yet to make me think anything of the guy as a team leader. It's obvious he been making plenty of bad selection of shots and instead of making others look good, the guy go out to do battle with Baron Davis and he's all my stats. I will give him credits for creating fouls against others but he needs to find ways to create plays for his teamates but if he don't, there are plenty of point guards out there we can trade him for. I would rather see thinking about 10 assists instead of going wild for 30 points.

I don't think Rudy have the gut to tell Francis what to do. He's pretty much afraid to bench Francis and hurt his feelings.

You can say **** about me all you want but when the team lose, someone is always responsible.

 

This was a very good Rockets game. We have n e v e r seen them play with this much motion for such a long period. Even to the end, we played as a team.

gripe if you need to. but you are exaggerating and are missing the fun of seeing a Rockets complete transformation. I'm astonished what we were able to implement in two days of practice leading to this. If Stevie makes his OT 17'ers off the great high post handoff play with Ming, and Moochie doesn't overpass, it's a win.

We really could use that other shooter of ours, too. what's his name??

btw: I'd like to see a time when not all of this Game Thread is about b****ing and counter b****ing after losses or a high fiving thread after wins, and the people with tape maybe adding a little more JLB type discussion of key moments. Let the b****ing happen, no need to argue with it. screw the people with preconcieved blinders who will always see what they want to, because there is a Rockets evolution happening in front of our eyes, and it is what we've dreamed of.

<b>That was motion. Yeah buddy!!!!!</b> The most beautifully run Rockets offense I've seen in a looong time. Something that will helps us involve everyone and work as a team.

 

Oh what's this? We not allow to voice our own opionions? Some of us here aren't trashing the Rockets but voicing our concern for the team about each and every players that we think is wronging the team. That is what forums are for. Even if you're not a fan of the Rockets. Just because you don't like some else opionions or doesn't agree with them doesn't mean you're right.

Think about it, some of us voice our opionions about Yao not getting enough touches and voila, sudddenly he's getting touches. Some of the people opionions are sometime mean but it's could always be an actual facts about certain player and it needs to be voice.

Guessed who's paying to watch the team? Yep the FANS!! Don't expect us to paid big money to watch if the team keep on losing team and for the team poor coaching and greedy players.

If they win we win if they lose we also lose and so by voicing our opionions, even sometime could be harsh we might be heard.

 

You're right. Everyone is allowed to voice their opinions. My opinion is that you're an idiot.

 

Some ONE is not always responsible. A team loses a game, not a player. And guess what, your boy Ming didn't exactly shoot the lights out tonight either, or have you not read that far down the box score?

And what the hell does fans paying for games have to do with what I was saying? The rest of that post was crap too... I think you totally missed my point in that post cuz you put up a terrible argument that made no sense whatsoever.

Anyways, there's no point talking about this any further, I like both players, and I (like many, I'm sure) think they'll both lead this team into the future. Any "fan" such as yourself that has a problem with either is going to find themselves very unnecessarily frustrated for a while. Francis is a badass, and I know you wouldn't be talking **** about his play had he made like 4 more of those shots... but like I mentioned before, not his greatest game, but he doesn't deserve the heat you're giving him, and he's still miles ahead of Ming right now.

And all I'm saying is that if you can't accept him on this team and you actually want to TRADE him, then you shouldn't be here. Without him, I gaurantee you this team isn't making the playoffs.

 

I'm not a Steve hater. He has been 5 years in this league and I expect more basketball IQ from him but so far, he hasn't gotten much. I like good ball player not a leader who likes to shoot and try to look good on stats. We all know Steve is a fabulous penetrator and athletic baller but it's time for him to show some basketball IQ and teamwork with some dissing skills.

 

MASTERASIA,

Francis has been in the league for 3 years, and he's going on his 4th now.
But, as I said along. We have 3 more years to see what Francis will become.

We might as well get used to this type of play until then... sigh..

He's going to have some good games (the ones that he gets his teammates
involved) and a lot of stinkers (turnovers galore).

I tell you what though...What happned to all our shooters on this team?

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