ClutchCity.net Game Thread: Kings @ Rockets 10/16/2003 (PRESEASON)

and hes also cost his team multiple games with his inability to hit his free throws at the end of games.

 

You can say its pre-mature to compare Yao and Duncan on clutchness at this stage. However, I have seen tons of Duncan's missed FTs and shots during clutch time, while Yao is very cool at clutch time.

 

* Defense. Duncan.
* Athleticism. Duncan.
* Titles. Duncan

 

duncan is about as clutch as chris webber. heh. those are the two downsides to duncan, he isn't clutch at all, and he can't shoot free throws whatsoever.

I don't think he deserved either of those mvp awards either. last seasons should have gone to KG, and the year before that, should have gone to kidd.

 

That's really nice of you to compare titles of a 6-year player against one-year player. Lets compared after they all have 10-years under their belt.

 

Thanks for the information. If Yao will be the dominating center within two years, then we have SF and other role players. We may able to reach the western conference final, I hope.

 

i'm not even going to waste my time with this argument. it's ridiculous to compare someone who has led his team to the 2 finals with a 2nd year player who has trouble getting the ball from his point guard. it's just not comparable. duncan's been on a stage that yao has not been on, yet. so, even if tim has failed at times, it doesn't mean you can give yao credit for it! that's just stupid.


oh, and i won't disagree about KG deserving last year's MVP or kidd deserving the year before's. they had great seasons. MVP seasons. then again, i can't say that tim didn't deserve it, either. despite my natural dislike of the spurs, i cannot deny tim's talent. i just hope that in a year or two, yao can displace tim (and/or shaq) as the best post player in the nba...

 

Who's that No.12 guy in that picture? Is that Moochie?? Where is his hair???

 

Van Gundy stole it. He's having a wig made!

 

Yeh, but you were comparing current Yao to current Ducan It's really silly to put them on the side by side at this moment of their respective career.

It makes more sense to compare Yao to Ducan's 1st/2nd year, but I believe Ducan was a dominating force ever since his rookie season. So, there is really no comparison here until Yao can prove himself in a few years.


--daoshi

 

Duncan is the closest player in NBA that Yao can compared to. Don't tell me Shawn Bradley is. So it is valid to compare Yao against Duncan in play style etc. But it doesn't make sense to compare number of titles/NVPs obviously since Yao has only played a year.

When played head-to-head, Yao did well against Duncan in his rookie year, especially in the first regular season game against Duncan. With JVG's system, I fully expect Yao to have a breakout season. Hope when Rockets play against Spurs, JVG would put Yao on Duncan. I would like to see how do head-to-head. My prediction is Yao will do very well against Duncan.

Can't wait for season to start.

 

Yao on Duncan, could happen. Who is going to be the Spurs main center this year? Didn't Robinson retire?

 

Duncan is still playing PF. Nesterovic is now the starting Center.

 

comparing the current yao to duncan, who is imo the best player in the league and a two-time world champion is pretty ridiculous.

BUT, i think yao has shown he has the ability to rise to that level. the improvement he has made in just one year is enough for me to think he has the desire and work ethic to become the best.

 

D*** , yao was quick

 

I agree with you on most of that except for clutchness. Duncan has proven time and time again that he is by far the best player in the NBA. Hands down. Would I trade Yao for Duncan? In a heartbeat. Duncan is a known, yao is still a somewhat unknown, although to a lesser degree than earlier. but look at duncan's team. our supporting cast is much better than duncan's. but look who is champion and who is in the lottery. so,. i guess i'll take a sure thing over someone who has room to grow, but after duncan, i would probably not trade yao for anyone else. I still love the guy and he could end up being as good or close to as good as Duncan, IMO.

 

You're wrong. plain and simple. Duncan = Best player in the NBA, by a long shot.

 

I wouldn't call our supporting cast better than Spurs, in fact much worse! Rockets may had some talents, but no team concept atll. Not to diss Rudy T, but he sure wasted the development of some of the young Rockets. Just look at Boki, Moochie, and Cato. A couple of practices and preseason games, JVG has turned Boki from bust to potential, Moochie from dead weight to solid role player, and Cato from expensive bench to a potential PF starter that we have been looking for all season long.

When Yao get one or two seasons from JVG, better conditioning, some tricks from Ewing to help him learn blocking/rebounding, his upper limit is higher than Duncan, 6 inch higher at least.

 

He maybe the best player right now, but he sure is not clutch. Just count the number of free throws he missed in the final minutes last year in the playoff. It costed Spurs one game against Suns and another against Jersey. When you are the goto guy in the team, one of the worst thing can happen is to miss FT at clutch time.