Clutch stats for extreme pressure situations over the last 3 seasons

kobe plays for a really high profile team and won championships when he was young and is fearless at taking last second shots and since he makes some of those, he gains an enormous reputation that someone who played for the bucks wouldn't get almost no matter how many he hit. that's how it starts.

chauncey billups has been called mr. big shot for years now even though i think he has had some of the absolute worst game-winning shot stats (last 24 seconds stat i think). he just keeps bricking and he keeps being called mr. big shot for things that happened 8 years ago because reputations die hard. to value how gm's and analysts "feel" about clutchness over actual makes and misses just isn't the way to go.

 

STATS ARE FOR LOSERS....

 

Yeah but the problem here is you can't use clutch stats to prove clutchness simply because of the low sample size. Goodbud already pointed it out, MJ (hailed as the clutches player in history) only had 1.5 games' worth of clutch shots his entire career. One game isn't enough to figure out whether a guy is clutch or not.

Clutchness is based more on rep and dramatic events rather than actual facts, which is why I don't really believe in it.

 

So you really feel the most respected minds in professional basketball are drastically influenced by whether or not someone is playing in a big market, like a casual fan?

If that's the case their opinions are worthless and they shouldn't be able to make any major basketball related decisions.

 

I think Van gundy said it best where as stats can be helpful, but you can't overlook human psychology and how it deals with pressure, expectations etc, and that is a big part of clutch that changes the dynamic of the stats from the other parts of the game, its not the same playing field/level

 

Fixed it for you

 

Well, so you never think it's you, not the rest of the world that's lacking basic basketball judgement?

 

Kobe got his reputation for his willingness to take those shots, for his superb ability to make difficult shots. And he demands double, triple team 18ft+ in that situation or he's gonna hit it at good rate. It's easy to see why Gasol and Artest would have those putback. They simply had more bodies under the hoop.

 

And of course your memory is very messed up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKVwztoIJgY
Down 5 32 seconds to go, Kobe spinned into 4 defenders before passing to Gasol for an open dunk. Next possession, Magic was so scared they decided to double Kobe in backcourt though they're up 3. Lakers got a 4 on 3 advantage after the pass and that contributed to Fisher's open shot. OT, again, Kobe's doubled and Fisher's wide open to hit that winning 3.

It's true Kobe didn't hit a game winning shot in those 2 championships. But he hit a floating 3 in last minute in WCF game 3 against Nuggets to give the lakers the lead after trailing all game long. He had consecutive makes to keep Lakers in 6-8 lead till the end in WCF game 6 against Suns after Dragic started that comeback. He got 10points in finals game 7 4th quarter including 2 FT at 24 seconds mark to keep Lakers up 4. All these were critical clutchy performance.

LeChoke on the other hand, hasn't been willing to take those shots in the last 2 years. Sure he had a great series against Bulls, but they were not exactly pressured in that series. They won the 2nd game and comfortably won 4-1. The pressure is highest when a series are tied 2-2. All the surprise is gone, and every game feels like a must win. And LeBron happened to lose all 6 of them in the past 3 years under that situation. In comparison, Lakers had 5 long series out of 8 total in those championship runs and they came up on top. They weren't a stacked team like LeBron nuthuggers are willing to believe.