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clutch: source says rockets want 1 of 4-5 PG's expected to go lottery

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thacabbage, Jun 13, 2009.

  1. BasketballReasons

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    Morey hasn't failed us yet, however, its bond to happen at one time or the other. Problem is I think Morey is great in bringing in small additions like Lowry but I still question him on bringing in good confirmed players who can actually put the team on top.
    Artest was okay, but a little disappointing thoughout the whole season.
     
  2. Crush

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    Shouldn't be posted. Those sources should be fired. Unless this is a misinformation campaign
     
  3. JayZ750

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    I think backup center or PF. I really like Landry, and think he could get even better...but on the other hand if there was a trade available that got you a backup 4/5 that gave you solid production, and you had to trade Landry to do it, I probably would.

    That said, I don't know who that other player is. A Spencer Hawes type (mentioned multiple times in this thread) would be perfect, but why would Sacramento do that, I don't know.

    This talk of moving into the lottery aside, I think you use the MLE to resign Wafer and to sign the backup 4/5 with length that you need (maybe a Zaza Pachulia type, maybe Rasho's got a year or two left). Obviously, we're not talking big minute players here, but someone who can give you 10-15 mpg, give Yao more rest, and be counted on a little more than Deke in the event Yao gets injured again.

    Then you try and package Tracy for that backcourt help/slasher you need, somehow.

    Again, who knows...wait and see!
     
  4. jopatmc

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    I would rather use the MLE to get a guy like Villanueve and you let Wafer walk. Move Brooks to the 2 to capture Wafer's minutes and trade for Rubio.....if possible. If not, float with McGrady until we get the trade we want. Villanueve makes Landry expendable as he is a combo 3/4 with plenty of height.
     
  5. DrJB25

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    hell yeah!!
     
  6. clutch citizen

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    Let me ask you this: What if McGrady produces big time next season, and the Rockets have the best record in the league? Would you still trade T-Mac?

    I think I would, but at that point, Les might fall in love with him again
     
  7. JayZ750

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    I'd be fine with this, though wouldn't consider it a home run of an offseason or anything. At least with Villanueva, its been long enough that you know what you get with him, as opposed to past years where you hoped he'd bring more. And I do think "what you get" would be very additive to this team.

    I would question whether Brooks is a better SG than Wafer. I think Brooks is the better player with more upside, and obviously is under contract on the rookie deal (whereas Wafer would have to be resigned), but I'd wonder how much of Brooks upside is because he is a scoring PG, as opposed to an undersized (albeit incredibly fast) SG?

    I guess what I'm saying is, I'd like what you suggest, which is letting Wafer walk, signing Charlie V., using T-Mac's contract, Landry and fillers to move into the lottery...

    but then I'd draft Harden instead of Rubio. Harden's last few games were sub-par, but otherwise, to me, he seems to be exactly what we need.

    True SG = Check
    Size for His Position = Check
    True Scorer = Check
    Young = Check
    Great College Stats, while in a good league on an ok team = Check

    The guy averaged more assists per game than some of the PGs previously discussed in this thread (Teague, Evans, etc.) at 4.2 per game. He shot 41% and 36% from 3. He got a couple of steals a game, he got to the ft line, he's young.

    I'd rather run

    Brooks, Lowry, Harden, Ron, Battier, Scola, Villanueva, Yao

    than

    Rubio, Brooks, Lowry, Ron, Battier, Scola, Villanueva, Yao

    ....but this thread is about the lottery rumors associated with PG's, not SG's, so?
     
  8. Francis3422

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    Why do people continue to say that Tracy will produce next season as the Tmac of old?He had microfracture surgery!
    MICROFRACTURE!

    Not bone bruise, not gouged eye, not aids.

    Tracy has a habit of saying what the public wants to hear....
    Such as "my goal is training camp"

    Why rush him back, when we supposedly rushed him back before and hurt ourselves.

    He will never play for us again.

    Kobe Cant guard Tracy even with MJ helpin him cause Tracy is GOD
     
  9. WhoMikeJames

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    Not much else to it.
     
  10. HTown_TMac

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    Tracy is in his contract season.
    His team made it to the 2nd round without him.
    He is working hard with Mr. Grover.

    Shall I go on?
     
  11. Pat

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    A heat-check for the GM! I love it.
     
  12. ctry2582

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    Brooks is no 2
     
  13. Rocket86

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    Agree. Only minor changes should be made unless a chance to add a substantial talent comes up. Trust Morey.
     
  14. Francis3422

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    Ooh Tim Grover?

    I dont think the guys in the locker room, want a guy who plays hard only because its a contract year. In fact, presenting that in your argument implies that you acknowledge he has been lazy in non contract years.

    He may have successful years ahead of him in his career. But he is still only 4 months post MICROFRACTURE surgery. And he is no spring chicken. There may be a couple cases where an older gent came quickly back from it. But what has Tracy ever done to show he can be the exception to that rule. This year, he will not be effective, if he comes back at all.
     
  15. Landry92

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    I hope thats not true AB and Lowry with improvment of the little things like IQ and descions well be great ...
    If we draft somebody hopefully its not rubio .. big gamble
    still trust Morey .. in what he pulls off the hat ..
     
  16. Francis3422

    Francis3422 Member

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    Also Htowntmac

    How is using this fact

    "his team got to the 2nd round without him"

    An argument for McGrady coming back to put his balls all over Kobes trophy next year.
     
  17. HTown_TMac

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    He has said himself that he lost passion for the game. Using the argument that his team went to the second round without him is an ego thing from him. THAT is the reason. He might be 4 months post surgery, but he has already started non contact drills my man.
     
  18. Francis3422

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    Anyone that can lose passion like that is sad. Even if you lose passion, you are getting paid and I mean PAID.

    If we were going to acquire player x, and one thing that was true about him was that he lost passion for the game multiple times in his career with multiple teams, never been out of the first round and regularly rolls teammates under busses.

    Most here would say no way.

    I do
     
  19. RV6

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    There are rookies who are more ready than others. If they feel a rookie is as ready or more ready than brooks is now AND has more talent, then it's not that much of a step back. Let's remember Brooks was a late firs rounder, probably an early second if houston doesnt draft him. He was suppose to take 2-3 years to really contribute conisistently, but this would be a top pick who very likely can contribute significantly now, sure some top picks are projects and will need time, but there's no sign as of now to indicate they're going after a project PG, maybe they pick one who's at Brooks' level of development.

    I'm not saying this is what I would do, so i'm not explaining it based on how i'd do it, but based on my putting myself in their shoes. If you alwways look at things purely from a ball standpoint then sometimes you're not going to get it, because this is a business first, basketball game second, whether we like it or not.
     
  20. HTown_TMac

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    The passion is back, its his contract year. No worries.
     

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