Also, breakaways are almost always assisted unless it's off a steal (and I can't remember the last time Griffin went coast to coast like that). Most of the time when Griffin gets a breakaway he is fouled hard.
The ability to create your own shot doesn't always translate into made baskets. It can also result in free throws. Shaq averaged 13 FTA per game in the 2000-2001 season. Additionally, its possible to create your own shot as well as be assisted on the play. Shaq used to get deep in the paint, catch the ball, and immediately go up and dunk it. That counted as an assisted basket, but it was still a shot that Shaq created.
How did I miss these epic last few pages? The only team that flops more than the Rockets is the Clippers. And that's really saying something considering 2 of our starters are flop connoisseurs, and our starting PG wishes he could master the art of flopping like CP3.
So since you're including offensive rebound putbacks and unassisted breakaways as "creating your own shot", wouldn't you say your analysis is flawed?
Clippy comparing Griffin to Shaq, reminds me of that time when Chris Webber was talking with Minnesota GM Kahn, and Kahn compared Darko Milicic to Chris Webber.
Yes, and most of Griffin's points and FT attempts are this exact same way (just not at the same volume as Shaq). If you are only going off this series, I can see how you'd think Griffin is worse than he really is because the Memphis bigs are doing a good job being extremely physical and denying the ball. But, contrary to popular belief, Griff scores most of his points the same way Shaq did, by receiving the ball in the mid- to low-post, initiating a post move, and getting an easy chippy or dunk. It is not all "lob city" like the media wants you to believe. But you can either keep on arguing points that are impossible to analyze and going by your cut, or using what is out there when you can't watch the games.
It is not a perfect analysis but Griffin doesn't get more of these types of scores than any other top scoring big so it's statistically insignificant. What big today do you think is good at creating his own shot?
clippy, griffin is a good young player who just about any team would want on their team. But to call him a superstar right now is premature. The kid is real good, but unless he stops his antics people are going to hate on him because nobody likes floppers and complainers. Give it a rest.
Off the top of my head, Bynum, M. Gasol, P. Gasol, Aldridge, Garnett, Bogut (when healthy), Bosh, Al Jefferson, Love, Zach Randolph, Duncan, Dirk, and Scola.
Well, of those guys, only Aldridge, Jefferson, Love, and Scola had a lower assist percentage than Griffin (your argument, not mine!) and all made about the same amount of unassisted FGs. You have it so set in your head that Griffin is just a dunker with no post moves but he's doing the same thing as all of these guys to score. It really can't go both ways.
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No, that's your argument. Remember how I pointed out its flaws? Also, look at Scola. He gets a lot of assisted baskets off his pick and pops. But that doesn't change the fact that he can create his own shot b/c of his posting abilities. The guys I listed are all players you can run isolation plays for and expect good things. The same can't be said for Griffin.
So tell me, how is Griffin averaging 20+ ppg the last two years? Because I've watched every game he's played in and I'm pretty sure he isn't getting 10 lobs a game and the pick and pop is nonexistent. It's rhetorical because I know the answer and you don't (since you don't watch him play). It seems very strange to me that you think that Scola is a guy you can just give the ball to and score and Griffin can't do that, when Griffin scores more points at a higher percentage and gets just as many unassisted buckets. Just because he's athletic and can dunk on guys doesn't make him less of a scoring option, especially since half of his dunks are from just faking guys out and blowing by them.
Clippy, griffin has no game. He's like amare pre injury. He will never be a skill low post player. He will become a pick and pop type of 4 like amare. Even his up and under move is out of control. That doesn't men he won't have a good long nba career.
if the game is close at the end, I expect the whole Clipper team to act like a drive by just came through and shot all of them. Including the players on the bench resulting in multiple horrible calls.
With really low resolution on espn3, there is a very strong family resemblance with the Gasol whine face.
